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Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 65

You mean within a profession?… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 66

Well, the former zoo directors that you worked for before. Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 67

Did they call you up and say, I got some advice for you?… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 61

(Gary chuckles) But the first day I was on the job, I had a little old beat up desk. I’m in the commissary smelling of fish throwing out, and all the cleaning fluids and all this stuff. And the phone rings. And there was a little thing in the paper,… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 62

Can you come and get him?” Oh, okay. What’s your address?… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 63

And whoever checked it out, it wasn’t a Prairie dog. It turns out, well, then the phone rang again, another call, I mean, all day long, the zoo had gone out and taken a chainlink fence, and put it into the ground that deep and put a guard rail around… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 64

(Gary laughs) Were any of the previous directors you worked for, did they ever give you any advice when you now took this new position?… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 57

It was a feeling of because, Kansas City, there was no education department, but every time the zoo got a request for a talk, Mr. Cully said, can you go give a talk at this group or whatever?… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 58

And I was giving talks all the time to scout troops just on my own. But it was a feeling of being in a position to, and having a facility, needed a lot of work, oh my gosh. and having these wonderful, to help other people understand animals better. And… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 59

They didn’t have much scientific basis in what they did. They would, we had one beat-up pickup truck. And so the foreman said, “Well, today, we have a special mix for our hoofstock, a feed mix. So I’ll go get that. So he’d be gone all day. So one time… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 60

Bring it back, well, we didn’t have the pick up truck all day long. I said, “I tell you what, let’s get some Purina Omolene.” (Gary chuckles) What is that? (chuckles) And they’d go around to one of these places, and they go around to the grocery stores till the… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 53

I can’t help but think that Mr. Hale might’ve said, “Well, why don’t you get that young fellow who was in Kansas City?… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 54

He’s now in Fort worth or something.” But I don’t really know, I mean. Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 55

When you accepted the position, did you have doubts about being named director at such an early age?… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 56

I probably wasn’t smart enough to have doubts. I was so excited. It was such a wonderful opportunity. It wasn’t that I was gonna be the boss. It wasn’t that, it was, I’m not sure how to explain it. Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 50

And I learned a lot on the job. And started on October 1st, 1963. Read More

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Why do you think they considered someone so young as yourself?… Read More

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The previous park commissioner, who was out of office when I came, but was in office for many years, his name was Preston Hale and he did a lot to build the zoo up at the time. It was one of these park department zoos that sometimes it’s run by… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 47

They were the opposite of Kansas City. Not much on hoofstock, more limited on carnivores, better on great apes maybe, but they were just building the then new herpetarium. And my first task was to help the rush to open the new exhibit. Every single goes through that, was to… Read More

Interview 1738 – Caption Index: 48

And then maybe when I was 30 or 35, I would be in a position to accept or think about curatorial level spot, and then maybe 5 or 10 years there. So in my 40s, I might be experienced enough, wise enough to be a director. So I started as… Read More

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