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Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 52

I mean, I remember when I started out, I think it was with GS3 and I don’t– What does that translate to?… Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 48

Now, you’re in a different level now, you’re a keeper, not a kid coming in with reptiles, did you have contact with the then director Mann?… Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 49

I didn’t really have that much contact because he never really came into the zoo. I think the last time I saw Dr. Mann was right after he retired and he retired, I think, I wanna say, four months after I started. And they brought him down about, I don’t… Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 44

But you never got in trouble for it?… Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 45

I never got in trouble and Jean never reported us or anything like that. I mean, he took it and really good humor. When you started, the director was not William Mann, it became Ted Reed. No, it was William Mann. Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 46

When you started?… Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 47

When I started, yes, and Walker were still assistant director. Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 40

It was definitely different. I mean, some of the stuff that we did, if we’d done it 15 years later, we probably would have been fired for it because, I mean, I don’t wanna start as far as practical jokes are concerned, but I’ll tell a couple of stories in… Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 41

And at the time I’m standing there and Jack says, “echidna laid an egg.” And I said, “You’re kidding me,” and I opened the door and Jean’s coming around and I take the egg out. And I say, “This is amazing, Jean, look at this.” And Jack says, “Let me… Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 42

You feed it as a kind of a pancake, but it was like dough and it was brown. So we took a big chunk of this stuff and rolled it out on the table this long and put it in aardvark cage. And Jean same thing comes walking down and… Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 43

And I said, “Here, it’s really dead, it’s not moving at all.” And then at that point, we just decided enough was enough. Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 37

Now, let me read you, you said something I wanna kind of jump ahead, just as a tan, you said about you play practical jokes and people seem to enjoy it and so forth. Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 38

You’ve been at the National Zoo in the profession a very long time, from a philosophical or an animal keeper point of view, do you think in your later years at the zoo, the keeper force did those kinds of things, enjoyed their job the same way from when you… Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 39

Did the evolution of the keepers as you started and when you kind of finished, did you see a difference in that maybe enjoyment of the job, or was it different?… Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 33

What was your thinking as you were starting your job and progressing as a keeper?… Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 34

I don’t think that really hit me until the very late ’50s, early ’60s because at the time I was still getting used to working there and getting to know the people that I was working with. I spent a year in the Bird House. I spent 2 1/2 years… Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 35

So they had cottonmouth, and rattlesnakes, and copperheads, and then a few Asiatic vipers. And just, I don’t know, at one point, Armstrong said, “Could you pick up that copperhead?” And I said, “Are you crazy?” He said, “No.” He says, “I’ll do it.” So he reaches in, picks up… Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 36

But there was no way to restrain these animals except by hand or with net, because they hadn’t gotten to the capture gun, which I’ll talk about later. But so we would go in with mountain lions, the two of us with the net and net these guys and hold… Read More

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So was this your baptism?… Read More

Interview 2817 – Caption Index: 30

That was my baptism by fire, yeah. And it was always, they take me out and train me on some of the outside yards and the guy would say, “Well, this is what you’re supposed to do. Okay, you have to close just like this. You have to make sure… Read More

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