Well we got Chang Mai, we got Bangkok and we got Kki Open Zoo. So they helped me write the proposal and said this is how we could do it. Oh we have accommodations for you and everything. So I put in their proposal, we got the money. So that… Read More
I said, well they, they, they’ve got hopes to get a grant for strike. He said, we’re not interested in doing that. He said, whoever you talk to, lemme talk to him. Gimme the number, I’ll talk with him. A couple hours later I got a call back and said,… Read More
And he said, well what did they say?… Read More
But the initial grant that got the zoo biology going was a, was a, a little grant fund that they had in the Smithsonian for scientists for, it was like a new opportunities fund. So I proposed, we had a couple of Thai zoo biologists that were working at the… Read More
And we, we were in a food line and I got chatting with him and he wanted to know what we were doing and I told him we were doing this training stuff, but we needed to tap into some more fun funds to expand, expand the program. And he… Read More
And so I got a call from their office and they said, oh no, Stry has a big proposal they wanna put into them. So we want you just to hold back and forget about it for now. There’s other places you can go, we can help direct you to… Read More
And you had alluded to, and let’s talk about it now, the zoo biology program, how was it developed?… Read More
Well, before Eisenberg left Rudy Rudan and John up at WCS in charge of their conservation programs, primatologist, you know who he is, I can’t think think of his name right now. Anyway, the two of them applied for grant money and they got grant money to, from NIH to… Read More
What role did you play in it and what did you feel its value was to Foreign Zoo?… Read More
And finally he applied for a job and he got hired and he had the wildlife degree. That was good experience, you know, good background to do what he was doing as a keeper. So it all worked out. Read More
You know, because I’ve kind of ignored him for a year and we listened to him and everything. I treated him just like good old dime, you know, and everything. He got the job so we never talked about it. But he found out that I was fair. So that… Read More
I could just tell he was just wondering, you know, is this guy gonna pick, pick me for this job or gimme a fair shake?… Read More
And he said, you know, geor and stuff on there making this this tower, you know, they wanna make this tower and everything. He says, I’m a wildlife biology major. And they didn’t come and talk with me about it. And I said, well you can talk with them about… Read More
You know, he always, for a year I’d be walking home for lunch or going back to the, the office and everything I believe. No response. Then he applied for the, that biotech position or I think he became a biotech. Yeah, moved outta the keeper ranks and he applied… Read More
I dunno, I didn’t have many problem. There were a few that were problematic, but I got along with most everyone. We had one staff member, I remember he came over to my office and we had these German students. We had lots of foreign students who worked there, supported… Read More
How would your staff describe your management style?… Read More
We had family disputes that came into it where lawyers were involved in and I mean we had all kinds of problems, but we managed to stay focused on what our goals were and the place developed and grew and, and ended up with a robust stable of scientists, biologists,… Read More
In fact a lot of people who were academics would come out there and that’s what I wanted to get into. And they’d see the facilities we had and the animals and all the possibility and, and I could just tell they envied the position that I was in working… Read More
Well, some, some people thought I wasn’t, I didn’t act like the boss enough. I wasn’t a kind of kick ass person. But others seemed to be quite happy with it and appreciated the relationships we developed. I was there for 30 years for, or my total time at Smithsonian… Read More
And those were, were all management problems that chip we had to deal with. Read More