In fact a lot of people who were academics would come out there and that’s what I wanted to get into. And they’d see the facilities we had and the animals and all the possibility and, and I could just tell they envied the position that I was in working there and having the authority to make things happen. Having access to funding trust funds and grants within the Smithsonian and beyond U-S-A-I-D. I mean there were a lot of possibilities for supporting programs. I forget how we funded the zoo biology. Well that came out of a, a Pew Charitables Trust grant allowed us to get the zoo biology training course going.
