You know, those things are always gonna happen, but the public doesn’t realize this. They think that it’s a, it’s a more ideal idealistic scenario in their mind, but in reality it isn’t. You know, and that’s something that I came to realize over time. I mean, that’s my conclusion. Read More
And they built facilities in the parks and everything. And a lot of good things happened as a result of that relationship. And we got a whole team of people trained as excellent field biologists and they’re still over there. It’s just that the, it’s probably not a high priority… Read More
How does the zoo, how did you deal with surplus animals?… Read More
Very unfortunate thing that happened. But I mean, I don’t know how many species there, reptiles and amphibians they described as it was in the twenties. It may be in the thirties in now. New species that were just described as a result of our opening the doors to and… Read More
But that was kind of the end of the road for us unless we could reintroduce ’em to the wild. And we kind of explored the possibilities in Thailand and they were not interested because it wasn’t the right subspecies. And then we went to Burma and they said what… Read More
He went on to get a PhD, I think out of Bat Thai University. And he’s now written a book about the birds of, I dunno if it’s Northern Burma, I don’t have it, but all based on that field work. And they were collecting specimens. I mean they were… Read More
I don’t think they’re doing that anymore. That was the main things that I can think of. Read More
Well the limiting factor was always budget. You know, if you had an, if you had a, you know, $2 million you could spend a year on projects, things would happen. I mean, that project that we had in Burma came about because I had FONZ funds for that. And… Read More
Are there programs that you wanted to implement but they just didn’t happen?… Read More
So that was an important sort of thing. I think reinforcing a scientific approach approach to scientific management was something that our organization bought into. Nobody argued with that. The center was like that and the zoo was like that. We believed in it and I played a role in… Read More
I just think kind of being a cus custodian of the Conservation Research Center and being there, being responsible for some of the directions it took in endangered, you know, in pursuing the endangered species research projects and that sort of thing like with the black-footed ferrets and Scott Derrickson’s… Read More
And I can’t remember right now what ideas I got from it, but I think it helped in enlarging my perspective. And I made some good friendships with Christian Schmidt was a good friend in the early days and Ulrich Schuerer became a good friend. We used to buy books… Read More
In, in your long career at the, at National Zoo and and the other zoos you’ve worked with, what would you say is your proudest accomplish?… Read More
Yeah, well I was critical of the nationals and I had my, as critic, you know, we’re scientists, were critical about things, right?… Read More
We like to ask the hard questions, but I, I would say in the early days I was impressed with the things I saw in Europe, the German zoos. Reed always wanted you to go see the German zoos and the Dutch zoos and see how they did things. And… Read More
Well, I was Aside from the nationals. Read More
Why do you admire them if you do and where are they?… Read More
Are there any issues in the world you particularly admire?… Read More
I know that some zoos did, I think, didn’t Milwaukee have a sister zoo relationship?… Read More
Yeah, I, you know, it may have a lot to do with the director of the zoo and his interest in things beyond the boundaries of the United States. I think if you had a well traveled director who’s visited zoos in other countries that it might spark some interest… Read More