And I think they need to continue to do that and continue to hammer away at trying to get cooperation with a ZA. But a ZA also has a philosophy of saying, you’re a private individual, you shouldn’t have exotics. We talked about that. I don’t necessarily agree with that. Read More
Okay? We have enough from a genetic standpoint, using some of Bob Lacey’s work to say, we can build a sustainable program with this core population. We’d love for you to come in and add your genetics, but if you don’t want to, you don’t have to. Read More
Are we gonna say you can’t be a member of the ZAA and have other benefits?… Read More
But what they’ve based it on is volunteer. Whereas a ZA has based it on you do this, or we’ll sanction you give your animal out here. If you’re a part of it, you have to. Z said, well, no, we’re not gonna do that. We’ll create a core group… Read More
You know, a CA used to do a fishing cat program. Well, they kinda let it go. Well they were fishing cat and the ZAA. So when I first got involved, I said, listen, here’s, here’s who you contact at Brookfield Zoo, because they’re the head of the fishing cat… Read More
You know, ZAA offers additional space to provide your capability to develop bigger sustainable populations. Why not cooperate? Now, ZA got a bad rep in the beginning. I won’t mention names, but it got a bad rep when it started. And it should have because of why it started. You… Read More
Yes, I think there is, and I say that because I’m involved with both. I’m a member of both. And I sit on the ZAA, which is the other one. I sit on their animal program committee, their conservation committee, and I see what they’re trying to do. And Fish… Read More
Is there room for both?… Read More
So American Zoo and Aquarium Association, there are now two professional zoo associations, zoological Association of America. Read More
I don’t know that we’re doing that kind of thing because we’re all stuck with, well, we need to do this, we need to educate this way. The educators wanna educate in a class. The kids aren’t interested in that, so let’s go out and talk to them and, and… Read More
Then sit down and say, how would you promote us?… Read More
What would you do that, that you think would pique your interest or your peers interest?… Read More
I think zoos ought to do the same thing. Let’s bring, bring in high school kids and sit down with them for two or three days and walk ’em through the zoo, talk about everything we’re doing. Read More
They would bring in a group of people, let ’em see a pilot or something, and they would sit down and begin to interview ’em and say, what do you think of it?… Read More
But, you know, mark, I don’t have a good answer for that because I’m probably too old and I have set values and set things that I think should be, and you know, my daughter, she’s in television, she does sound all around the world. She just came back from… Read More
Well, don’t be afraid to go out and hire a millennial and say, or, or bring, you know, what did TV shows used to do?… Read More
Well, if they have a phone, most of the time they’re on the phone. And of course we talked about the ability to put a QR code up on the interpretive and say, here, do that. And it comes on your phone. Well, that, that works a little bit. You… Read More
And what I saw before I left Brookfield was you’d have a family come in and if you had a, say a 12-year-old or up, kids come in with their family, what, what are they doing?… Read More
Call ’em in, call ’em in on a monthly basis and sit down with and say, here’s what’s going on in the zoo. Market them that way, way so that they get the message out in a different way to the public that markets the public to come in. Does… Read More
I mean, look at social media and what’s going on, TikTok and all these other things that, you know, we’re all upset about. That’s influencing kids and how they perceive themselves. How they perceive their, their, you know, their peers. Read More