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Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 24

Well, it was, it was basically a, what you would expect is a typical, well, I say not typical. It was, it was actually, for its time, was a pretty good zoo and that, they had, you know, they had a good cat collection. They had, and they had, you… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 19

No, he, yeah. He hired me as, he hired me as mammals curator and Columbus was in turmoil in those days. It was very, very political. Steve, you know, the reason I made the move up was that Steve got fired, and it was a very political place, political zoo. Read More

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They couldn’t do anything with me. Read More

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What year was that?… Read More

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Well, in 196, in June of 1963, and so I was there from the June, 1963 until, well, in effect October to December of 66. I actually then went to Omaha the first to December of 1966, excuse me. Now you walked in the door at Columbus as a curator. Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 15

And interviewed with Steve. He took me home at night, which I was happy about because I had filled my car up. And after filling my car up, I had $19 in my pocket to get home. So, that with, you know, with a little Nash rambler, you could have… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 16

And all of a sudden there was a cat that came up on the table and went for my bacon and eggs, before I could think what I was doing, I smacked that cat about halfway across the room and heard a big gasp and looked up, and here’s Steve. Read More

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So he didn’t hire you– No, no. Read More

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You were hired as a curator?… Read More

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And with no job?… Read More

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With no job. Read More

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What did you, what did you, how did you start out after you graduated?… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 14

Well then, you know, I had gone to St. Louis and St. Louis was thinking about hiring a full-time veterinarian, but it was going to be about eight months down the road before they made the decision. I had a wife and son by then that were addicted to eating. Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 7

And so I got into vet school and then, you know, four years later, and then of course married Marie. I’d met Marie when we were in undergraduate school at Central State College and met at a life-saving class, chemistry class. And then we got married six days before I… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 8

They’re, in your life, there are some interesting things that happen that at the time, you know, look and feel like maybe a failure or something that didn’t work out and actually turn out to be a really good in the long run. Not getting the, you know, not getting… Read More

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When did you graduate from veterinary school?… Read More

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I graduated– Well, I graduated from Oklahoma State in 1963. Read More

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Why did you think being a vet would get you to where you want it to go?… Read More

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It seemed like it was a more useful discipline. I mean, it, from a, you know, from a standpoint of doing something useful for the animals, for being able to do something on a zoo wide basis, it was a much more useful discipline because not only the medical aspects,… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 6

And so basically that’s why I went into veterinary medicine, right. You know, I had a full beard and mustache and the whole bit. Luckily was told just before I went up to interview for vet school that they’d never accepted anybody with a, with a beard. And so I… Read More

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