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Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 46

Do I compare it to a dog or a cat?… Read More

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I just, ran my finger around the rim and stuck it on my tongue. So, you know, the guy was a weightlifter, but he did a little ballet for me, told him, you know, he thought he could bend iron bars, that he was, you know, he could do anything,… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 41

How do zoo veterinarians communicate with each?… Read More

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Well, we did, there were only, as I say, there were only 12 of us that had full time paid jobs. And then there were a lot of guys that were on call. Basically, basically we had a, one of the, one of the guys had a mimeograph machine. And… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 36

Staff veterinarian. You were the staff veterinarian for the Columbus Zoo. There, as you mentioned, not many veterinarians in the United States doing that job. Read More

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What were some of the things that in the beginning, as a veterinarian, you had to deal with?… Read More

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Well, I mean, you know, the problem that we had in those days, still do some degree have today, but (muttering), the level, you know, the depth and level of our, of our ignorance of the things that we didn’t know was, was incredible. It was pretty profound. Walked into… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 39

And, you know, there are a lot of animals you can’t use, you know, you can’t use barbiturates on any of the, of the big cats because they, you know, they’ll sleep for two weeks. And then Sernylan, phencyclidine came along as an experimental drug just as I got to… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 33

You know, what’s your, what’s your philosophy?… Read More

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I said, my politics, all the, all the, all the things that I developed about not liking Columbus kicked in. I just kinda got up on my soap box and said, well, my politics are personal. That I don’t think politics and politicians have any place in the zoo unless… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 35

It was home free until I talked to the, to the guys, the real power behind the scenes and told them that I hated politicians (chuckling) and it was over. (chuckling) And if you think about it, it was probably the greatest thing that ever happened to me. If I’d… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 29

Well, I walked away with a profound dislike. I don’t want to say hatred, but it might’ve been, for politics and politicians and bureaucracy. And I think that’s pretty much stuck with me. So yet to this day, because I mean the big, you know, the amount of energy that’s… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 30

It was kind of a perfect match. Went in, interviewed pretty much had the job bolted down. In fact, there’s the president of the society was already made arrangements for the moving company to come get our furniture and the whole bit. And at the end of the day, there… Read More

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And I said, what do you mean?… Read More

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And she said, well, tell us about your political affiliations and your, you know, and your politics. Read More

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And so you got, you got a wide experience. At one time, I was mammals curator, staff veterinarian, assistant director, and acting curator of the aquarium all at the same time, because Columbus was kind of in turmoil in those days. Great experience. Great, great, great experience because you got… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 26

And we had the largest collection of poisonous snakes in the world there. Only about 10% of it on display. We had a huge collection. And because of the fact that I’d started out as a herpetologist and because I knew Bob Jenny and all of that, I think I… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 27

You, you know, you had the tools to do, survive just about anywhere. And because I had a professional appointment, the politicians, you know, couldn’t touch me. They made everybody else crazy, but I was kind of a bulletproof. You mentioned you learned some things. Read More

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What lessons did you walk away with from there?… Read More

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What kind of zoo did you find?… Read More

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