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Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 86

However, Herb Bowles’ parents and others strongly urged that these Japanese, these citizens, American citizens of Japanese ancestry are strongly patriotic Americans. And just because their folks came from Japan does not mean that they’re not patriotic citizens of this country, and therefore they should remain to help the war… Read More

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So he’s a friend of the zoo?… Read More

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And even if you’re not appointed?” So I of course said, “Absolutely, Mr. Lyons, you can count on me.” And so he urged the park department to accept the animals, and I’d done a few stories in the appearing supporting that. He said it was very open. Come to the… Read More

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Perhaps a third of the population was of Japanese ancestry, almost all born here. Herb Bowles had grown up in Japan and his folks were Quaker missionaries there. He spoke fluent Japanese. When the Japanese folks, ladies went to that clinic that he worked within, they preferred him because he… Read More

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So essentially, I was urging him to accept them. And we developed a rapport. He was one of the first persons that believed in my integrity that I could do what I said I’d do. I said, yes, that I’ll do this. We’ll get the help of the San Diego… Read More

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Will you still take care of them out there at the dairy, if the park department accepts the animals?… Read More

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So with those two strong focus, strong directed objectives, I was really persuasive with my building those encouraging others, my biology, I mean the head of the zoology department at the university. The people that I knew that remained here as Navy and here being Hawaii, is full-time Navy officers. Read More

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Do I accept them or do we say no and have them shipped back to the mainland?… Read More

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And then we’ll get into your time at the zoo. Well, as you’re totally correct. Then in terms of experience, zoo experience being limited to being an assistant reptile keeper, essentially that means cleaning up after a herd of giant tortoises and draining and cleaning alligator pools, and wiping the… Read More

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But I was audacious too. See, I just had enough experience as a leader in the war. I think in a large measure, it was due to two things. One is the fact that I knew I had the support of Belle Benchley, director of the San Diego Zoo. And… Read More

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What did they see or how did that start?… Read More

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So here’s the first question that I have, is how did you actually get into this position of zoo director?… Read More

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Because, of course, you had limited experience from the San Diego Zoo. You’d just come out of the- All of a sudden you are bestowed. Read More

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Well, now let’s get back to- Let’s get back to- and that is that we now have the second, we’ll call him zoo director, at this newly established Waikiki Bird Park, which was the zoo. And now we got this young whipper stamper, Navy guy who is there. And wants… Read More

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And what is truly remarkable, here is this man, probably in his late ’50s, with the much younger Japanese wife, had been paid by the organization of the ladies, had been appointed to that job of superintendent of the Waikiki, newly renamed Waikiki Zoo. The zoo previously had been called… Read More

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And he had an incredible, huge, this was in the late ’30s, this was, well, the mid ’30s, ’35. He came back to enormous triumph, had Japanese sacred cranes with a letter from the mayor of Tokyo to the mayor of Honolulu. “These cranes are granted to you with the… Read More

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And he gave a talk that the ladies had arranged for him at the brand new, what’s now the Academy of Arts, and he, again, extolled the merits of the future bird park for Hawaii. And he said, these animals are, he specifically pointed out. They’re not only much more… Read More

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The bird park was built. The bird park, and all of Catalina, and all of the nation was suffering of severe depression. Lewis was a builder, he’d built 400 aviaries, 400 aviaries and Catalina, plus an enormous, huge, what would be considered like a walkthrough, but it wasn’t a walkthrough,… Read More

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This is a marvelous, Honolulu is an ideal place for a bird park. It’s a natural with your tropical plant climate, the lush vegetation, future tourist, booming tourist attraction. It’s absolutely a natural attraction. That’s an ideal location, you should have one. And the ladies agreed with him wholeheartedly. He… Read More

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He was a Brit married to a Japanese lady from Japan, and his name, he never liked to use his real first name, his name was Edwin. He liked E.H., his last name was Lewis. E.H. Lewis had developed with the money of a man named Wrigley, who manufactured, the… Read More

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