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Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 148

So basically three times the population of the city in that year, which is interesting. It’s almost the same attendance right today. And Honolulu has tripled in size and we have 7 million tourists a year. I have one kind of technical question and I don’t want to lose it… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 145

The voyage was at, again, November. It was storming as the Pacific very often is, in November. But not that bad, the ship rolled a lot. But the main thing is I knew that ship. And again, since it was the same whole type, 500-foot long, C3 Navy transport. So… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 146

You’re in the middle. So whatever action, either rolling or pitching, you’re as stable as you’re ever gonna be in that center part of the ship, just so-called after the superstructure. And we put the animals, the tricky, the ones, particularly Rusty, right in the very center. So his action… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 143

Feeding and watering- Oh, but that part, after going under that bridge, the bridge was the hard part, I tell you. That was the part that was totally entirely in the hands of Gabe Davis and his skill as an animal trainer, and that would’ve, giraffe being bleeding to death… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 144

But the voyage?… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 141

It’s yourself and someone. Just one other guy. But the main thing is, you see, on the ship also, I had the rapport with the people on the ship. And the ship happened to had been the identical ship that I was on, the same class ship that I was… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 142

And you were responsible for the care of those animals for one week?… Read More

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So now you’ve got the animals on the ship, and how many people?… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 138

And the noise of the winches and the pulleys, and were screeching. And I talked to each of the two forklift drivers and I said, “Hey fellas, please be really careful of these crates of animals. Two things, go real slow, don’t bang them, and the other, that giraffe could… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 139

And I was with the one of our animal keeper foreman, Gary (indistinct), he accompanied on that trip to help, and the truck driver of our truck and Gabe Davis. And we all had, I said, “Hey, folks, let’s have a quick celebration here, a pre-Thanksgiving celebration. And I want… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 136

And simultaneously was up, going up from San Diego to Los Angeles Harbor. Louis was coming down with his trucks, Louis Goebel from Goebel Land Farm up in Thousand Oaks with our elephant. And this is where the term that you hear now is networking. Animal dealers had sent, Warren… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 137

And we’d gone previously to arrange all the military experience that I’d acquired on ships in the Navy and unloading troops. Came to good stead in this because we’d gone ahead, I’d gone ahead, talked to the Matson people. We negotiated a big shed that had a high enough roof… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 134

So Gabe was at the top of the crate, hanging onto the ladder. I was handing Gabe, I was doing, I had two functions. To hand Gabe more onions, they were chopped. And to relay, I was below Gabe on the tray, relay the instructions from Gabe to the truck… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 135

Gabe continued, just as he had trained him, “Steady, Rusty, steady, head down, head down,” and we got under that bridge successfully. And that was the biggest breakthrough in that whole trip. Because from then on, we got on the ship. It was in the winter, it was November. The… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 132

And we would very slowly drive beneath them. And they were far enough above so the giraffe couldn’t lick them, which they seem to be enormously attractive to giraffes, to lick electric wires or anything above their head. That fortunately, that part went well. The difficult part was the Santa… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 133

So we had taken the precaution to contact the Santa Fe railway, arranged with their train master to have no trains to be under going under the bridge. There wasn’t much traffic on that route, and what traffic there was the railway company agreed not to run the trains over… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 131

So we went on the trailer, and Gabe Davis rode on the ladder that was attached to the outside of the trailer. We had the two police cars, one police car from the San Diego Zoo accompanied us. It was the San Diego head of security. He was our message… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 129

And the man that did that training was a old circus hand named Gabe Davis. Gabe Davis had been with the Ring Brothers in Barnum and Bailey Circus with their elephants and their livestock, including giraffes for many years, and then he’d settled and was a head keeper at the… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 130

And he’d use, “Rusty, lower your head. Steady, Rusty.” He’d use those terms over and over and he’d keep feeding rusty these half of onions. And then we’d put Rusty into the crate. He moved back the trailer up to the barn. It was easy to get rusty to go… Read More

Interview 15334 – Caption Index: 128

And that was a critical thing because the bridge was just slightly would clear the crate of the animal on the trailer, but the animal’s head came about a foot and a half above the crate. And that was as close to a military operation as we ever achieved for… Read More

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