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Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 72

But he called me up after that and said, I can’t do it right now. The fact that I even mentioned bringing someone in overall, the curators created a real row, I guess. But he called me and, and we moved up. We had to move up to Chicago. So… Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 71

No, actually they had a, a young lady who had been their general curator and she left the zoo or was going to leave and announced that she was going to leave. And Stuart had talked to me when Stuart stall, the CEO had talked to me when he was… Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 73

I need someone to come in and temporarily fill in while we create a position or hire somebody in, can you do it?… Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 70

You know, we built a shell in this area to let you guys have. So they had to eat the contracts, but they still closed it down. And they let the Ontario facility operate for maybe another 10 months. But what they did was they let myself, they let Billy… Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 68

You know, they, they wanted to see a 25, 30% turnaround profit wise. And we told them from the very beginning, a, a guy named a Billy War, what came on as, as my boss, CEO, who had worked a bunch of venues for entertainment stuff, outdoor entertainment. And, you… Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 69

It really knocked their socks off. And we told ’em that the cost associated with this, we can’t do a 25 or 30% profit margin. And it, this went on for a year and we were pulling 10% and I mean, we were making money, but it wasn’t what they… Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 67

We had a whole school program going. And, and the first four months we had 3000 students come through that facility because they just didn’t have anything in that area unless they went all the way to the l la which was from Ontario. They couldn’t afford it bus wise. Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 66

They go, well, can you promote our programs? I said, sure. We took, as you walked out of everything, we took a room about this size and that we’re doing the interview in, and all we did was promote California Game and Fish and their programs for conservation. And they… Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 65

And I said, what can I do to help?… Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 64

I had Marmite who was working with Marmots. Nobody was working, but I did Horry. Marmite and I worked with the California game and Fish Department and they sent us stuff. We were breeding river boas, Rosie Boas. I had southern, Southern alligator lizards. We were breeding and working with… Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 62

We bought a, a great person that knew how to really develop a, a shop. And we had our own logo on a bunch of clothes and stuff called American Wilderness Experience. And you walked in, got on a sim ride that took you through a forest following a puma,… Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 63

We had bobcat, we had, what else?… Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 60

And we did what was called a deciduous Northern California habitat. And of course everybody was afraid that it was a zoo in a mall. And so I went out and got with the Pomona Humane Society, which was right in Ontario, California, which is where we were doing it. Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 61

And I said, okay, we’re gonna build it. My problem is, I don’t know what kind of resistance we’re gonna get from animal extremists, animal organizations that are anti zu, especially ’cause we’re in a mall. And the Pomona Humane Society said, don’t worry about it. If there’s a problem,… Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 57

Why are you saying no to this and changing this?… Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 59

And he goes, you’re gonna build this thing. And the first one we’re doing is Ontario, California. And we did, we, we, I’ve got photographs in my portfolio of the stuff we did. We put Disney to shame with what we, we created a redwood, we did all native species… Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 58

So I, I went through a bunch of it with them and I said, you know, here’s what you need to do. This is animal care management and welfare, and that’s what you gotta pay attention to. ’cause you’re gonna be in a mall and that’s gonna scare people. So… Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 55

And he came down and Pat showed him this. He goes, you know, here’s, here’s some suggested changes. And of course they’d spent months designing this thing and I’d kind of wiped it out in two days. And so Jonathan Pat come out of their meeting and they said, I… Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 56

Why are you doing it?… Read More

Interview 38268 – Caption Index: 53

And he called me and said, Hey, we’re doing this project, would you come in and look at what we’re doing?… Read More

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