Yeah. Well, I think during the nineties or the, was the eighties, I think it actually started maybe in the late seventies, was the awareness of the problems of poor management of captive populations and the growing awareness that this can lead to inbreeding and all kinds of other problems. And that led to the SSP program and really a major kind of revision within the AZA in coordinating activities between zoos in the management of wild animal populations in captivity. So I would say that was probably the biggest thing in my lifetime that happened. I mean, I was amazed at the energy that people put into that. I mean, people discovered kind of a commonality in their views towards animal management that hadn’t existed before. And people popped up and said, I want to be the chairman of the Bali Mynah committee, or whatever it was, you know, and all those different SSPs came into being. And then we had the, I was responsible for the figs, the fauna interest groups. ’cause I realized there were a lot of members of AZA who were doing work in the field, like the Aruba Island Rattlesnake, that they were working in the field abroad on species that were in their zoos.
