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Or do you pause and go a different direction?… Read More

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What is the best?… Read More

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Is that the best move you can make for the collection?… Read More

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If you have an opportunity to collect and get something for the zoo, is that the right move for the zoo?… Read More

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Already had a vision. I mean, again, I had watched and learned from people that made a lot of mistakes and people that were successful. And I tried to pick what I thought was the best approach to managing people and managing collections. One of the things, and I still… Read More

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Now, during this time, were you forming your philosophy about zoo management or did you already have a vision?… Read More

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Yeah, maybe a few additional responsibilities, but basically, it was just getting the mess cleaned up, making sure they’re all getting paid equally as well, or if there’s a seniority issue, making sure that that was addressed as well. So, you know, again, there’s a lot of rudimentary work that… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 150

This is just not gonna work. So again, we got all that cleared up and I didn’t lose anybody in the process of doing that. They all understood it. I was just honest and open with ’em. I said you’re not curators, you will be someday if you wanna stick… Read More

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So again, a lot of that seems wonky and, you know, were there additional responsibilities?… Read More

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Was it different now that you are the boss?… Read More

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So if anything, for your own career, I think it’s best we retitle everybody here, not affecting your pay, just changing titles. And so I took curator title away from just about everybody, but the one who ended up being the general curator, and rebuilt that. Now, they have curator… Read More

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No, no. I had built up, I thought, a very good relationship, you know, fair but tough with these folks because again, they’re young staff, very young staff, in their twenties, I think the oldest staff member I had might have been in early thirties. So not a lot of… Read More

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Now, what was your relationship then with your senior staff?… Read More

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You know, I didn’t realize that but it needed it. And Joe saw that, and the board agreed, and adopted those titles. So then you end up with I think five officers and, you know, your CEO and all things. So everything was tidy and nice, and everybody was happy. Read More

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It was just a title they gave me to, like, someone said if you have any more titles, you’re not gonna be able to get it on a business card. And I said well, I’m happy with where you left me or where I am. And I said, you know,… Read More

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And, you know, I applied for that one. ‘Cause I wanted it at that point. And so that’s that final title change. So the director is put in there, you know, none of the duties changed. Read More

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Okay?… Read More

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Yeah, so basically what happened is we called it the period of distraction. That’s the politically correct way. Lex lost his job and then the directorship was open. So that’s when they appointed both Craig Pugh and myself to co-direct along with the CFO. So actually, three of us. But… Read More

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And while they were searching, okay?… Read More

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Then the day had come and Craig and I had already decided, I said I don’t want the job. It’s yours. If they want to give it to you, go for it. I said I’m happy doing what I do, I’ll be your lieutenant, I’ll be your wingman. I’ll be… Read More

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