So I had three shifts of people that would come in to the children’s zoo from, from the start of my start until, until I left. You know, one was like from eight o’clock to 11, one was from noon to four and one was from five to nine at… Read More
They built a wolf wilderness exhibit. They eventually built a big gorilla exhibit. So there was some changes on its way, even the years that I spent there. Now, I wasn’t responsible for any of those, I was responsible for the children’s zoo. However, I was responsible for two other… Read More
Had a good group of people that i, I got to work with. I was really glad to do that. Read More
And you mentioned you physically lived in the zoo?… Read More
And Saul lived on the other side in a, in a house. Read More
And what were your, what kind of zoo did you find when you got to San Francisco?… Read More
The zoo itself? Well, it had some older exhibits too. Now my part was just the children’s zoo, but, but of course at night I walked around the zoo. I had a great time. In fact, I jogged, I used to do my running route around the zoo. So it… Read More
Well, that’s when I met you. I went to a conference when we used to have regional conferences in Sylmar. And when my master’s thesis, which I never really turned in, but I, I didn’t think it was on mother infant behavior of Ur Horn orx. And they accepted me… Read More
And you take a test, you talk to pe. How does it happen?… Read More
It was leaving and going to a deer park in, in southern California. So the opening to the children’s zoo manager job in San Francisco. So I saw that and I was interviewed and I came up to San Francisco at one time and, and interviewed for the job there… Read More
Because it happened when I was at la. So in LA I had saved enough vacation and, and I actually through Warren Thomas, I got names. So I took a Greyhound bus and went to 19 zoos in 30 days on a Greyhound bus. And that’s where I met when… Read More
And you go to San Francisco in 1976, right?… Read More
Well, I think then that helped me. I mean, working in a zoo, I saw, you know, you saw the animals, you saw good and the bad. So, you know, if the space was too small or they were keeping animals behind the scenes for no reason, you know, that… Read More
And how does this come about San Francisco When You’re in la Can I go back to, to my idea of forming zoos for a second?… Read More
Or did you already have a vision?… Read More
There was no pool. And we had, and I, the other thing in the children’s zoo, we had like six or seven three by two by two foot cages. And each one had a civet or a, or either a civet or a some sort of carnivore. And they, and,… Read More
They, they just have some complaints. So it did some good. And anyway, I think, I don’t think he left because of that, but he did leave and then Warren came in a lot of that, that those kind of issues were resolved. But, but it was just my background… Read More
So did you have, were you forming a philosophy about zoo management then?… Read More
So during this period, were you forming your philosophy about Zoom management or did you already have a vision or you had no vision?… Read More
You know, I had a vision, but I was actually, somebody sent me the newspaper articles before Warren came. As I said, there’s this guy, Chester Hogan, I think he was a nice guy. I don’t really remember that much, but the zoo, I was so smart. I knew everything… Read More