And so I told him I was interested and I applied and there wasn’t really a, an in-depth interview process, it was, I was actually assigned acting curator. And so Breaker would tell me PR primarily start researching these animals and what’s required for the permit applications. I was responsible for writing the permit applications Breaker would read through ’em, you know, I’d explain if there was any questions and he would be the one to sign off before we sent it in. So doing a good job, I guess as acting curator, he said, okay, you’re our official curator the following year and you know, full speed ahead. So that’s how it came about. Pretty simply, again, right place, right time. Got lucky.