Yeah, it was a new position because we used to have a little auditorium and I remember Bill Breaker calling the staff into this little auditorium. I think our, the entire entire aquarium staff might have been 75 people. And he announced that after years of wrangling with the board and da da da, we are going to move forward with this oceanarium exhibit. And we’re all like, wow. And he, he described it, it wasn’t even, didn’t have a final design for it yet, but we’re going to proceed with it. And I remember approaching Bill Breaker and David Lonsdale, the assistant director at that time, and saying, you know, I’ve got a, an advocation, you know, I’d love marine mammals. I read about ’em all the time, you know, I would like to be considered for this position. And I also thought, eh, Roger EK’s only a few years older than me, he’s not going anywhere, so chance for advancement aren’t gonna happen much.
