Interview 40106 – Caption Index: 225
And it was like, what are you getting bact and camels?… Read More
And it was like, what are you getting bact and camels?… Read More
They’re domestic. There are no wild bres left in the wilder. If there are, there’s, you could count ’em on two hands. And so he was getting resistance to ideas like this. And you know, bill Z was kind of in on it too. He was, and Miles was another… Read More
Well, he wanted, he said that he used to have, I’m trying to think of what he, he had these grievances with history and that what happened to all the camels. He’d say, we used to have camels in all those zoo. He goes, you don’t see camels anymore. He,… Read More
But we could breed ’em in much larger numbers. And nobody was worried about the population bomb or anything like that at the time. And then he wanted bact and camels. He got, he got a b in his mind about bact camels. And in a way, what Ted did… Read More
I mean, it, it was like there was no end to what it had all these buildings. And it was a wonderful place to wander around and explore. The state department had had a big section of it. They taught bugging in several of the buildings. There were bugs in… Read More
So, but what was Ted’s, why did he want it? What did he want it to do?… Read More
In fact, John Foster Dulles’s Carpet was in the house that I lived in, which was the commanding officer supporters. It was an old worn out Persian carpet that was there too. So there was a lot of history tied in with the place. And it was just a wonderful… Read More
But anyway, the zoo got, and the Smithsonian got the property, it was transferred to the zoo and it was also divided up with the four H Club. And you know, they had the sniffer dog training operation that was a federal operation. They got some of the land. So… Read More
Okay, so that’s kind of a complicated question and I can get off on a tangent depending on where I jump in. But lemme just say that he had this idea of getting federal land, which he could get off of the, what is it, the GSA or whatever that… Read More
What was his idea about this unique facility front Royal and how was he able to manage through the bureaucracy to actually acquire it?… Read More
No, I think there’s, there’s wild areas that are still left that pretty much resemble what they used to resemble. But I haven’t been out there lately. I may be wrong about, but, but traveling in Southeast Asia, I mean there are areas, protected areas in India and Southeast Asia… Read More
And the, the effects of habitat degradation, degradation are having their effects on those populations. I’m sure You mentioned front royal and you gave a bit of a history. Could, could you talk about, this was an idea from Ted Reed, the director of the National Zoo. Read More
You had talked about conservation and one of the questions I had was, do you feel there’s still a wild out there?… Read More
Or is it now just a wild zoo being managed?… Read More
And the gens were doing quite well. They had the large spotted Janet, which was breeding. So I started getting the offspring of those and hand rearing ’em. And I built a whole series of cages out at the University of Maryland. And I had like a 40 by 40… Read More
So I did that and nobody in the department ever said anything. It just transferred into my hands without going through any kind of official authorization process. So when John came back from Madagascar and he went out to see the lab, I had already built these, they were four… Read More
I could basically take anything off exhibit and bring it out there to study myself, which was great. So that’s, that was my involvement in this, in the John’s research operation. It was kind of a ancillary facility out at the University of Mar Maryland where the specimens would go… Read More
And he had this huge collection and he had a number of keepers that worked for Gene. And that’s kind of how it started. And I was one of the first who started studying the captive collection. I wasn’t studying the animals. He had, they had a big collection of… Read More
He said, can you tell me about the professors here?… Read More
So I went down the list of his doc. There was hail men, there was Morse, there was slight, there was, oh, Keith Nelson, John Eisenberg. And Eisenberg was the last, and after I finished he said, that’s the guy I want to meet. I said, well he is, he’s… Read More