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Interview 40106 – Caption Index: 185

Well, I’m not really up to date on what’s going on nowadays, but I know that the stressors are still there and getting bigger and more threatening than they’ve been in the past. Because they all have to do with basically human population growth and exploitation of natural resources. And… Read More

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So how do you, how do you see the role of the modern zoo evolving in a global conservation effort?… Read More

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And it was a little bit stressful on the family because I was gone most of the time. And then on the weekends when I went to Front Royal, people wanted to see me and interact. And so they were over at the house all the time. So the family… Read More

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I mean, the first week that I was there, I had to spend the week at the zoo. And then on Friday I went into Front Royal and then I spent the weekend with my family in Front Royal. And then I, Sunday night, I drove back to the zoo… Read More

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And have they continued?… Read More

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I think that when we were, when we started out, most of the initiatives were about building facilities and stocking facilities at the center. And so it was really about establishing collections and getting things going. And that’s what we spent the first years doing. But after the Endangered Species… Read More

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Yeah. I decided when Chand said you should try, I thought, well, maybe these guys do want me for the job and maybe I can get the job. And when you had the job as acting director, you were in charge of Smithsonian, you were in charge of the zoo… Read More

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What would you say are the research or conservation projects that you, when you were there, were most excited about?… Read More

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So you had, you wanted the job as director?… Read More

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So that was an animal welfare issue that had far reaching consequences. Read More

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And the other thing is that Mike Robinson was a very good competitor. Mike was a very eloquent speaker and he had a long history with the Smithsonian Institution. And he was kind of at that age where if he was going to advance and go up, this was, was… Read More

Interview 40106 – Caption Index: 174

And then he popped a question, asked me if I’d do it. And I said, yeah, I’ll, I’ll try. And so I went down there for about a year and a half I think it was. And Thenor said, you should put your hat in the ring for this, you… Read More

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But that had all smoothed out. And we were happy work with Ted, but he had to leave. And so Ripley asked me to be the acting director of the zoo. Called me down to his laboratory. He used to have a little bird laboratory. He had one, one day… Read More

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But that took care of the problem. So we were seen in a more favorable light by our detractors after that happened. But when I think that that particular incident gave Secretary Ripley the ammunition and that he needed to get rid of Reed, and I told this to Mark… Read More

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But we had to periodically, they’ll, they will even go over an eight foot fence during the rutting period, you know?… Read More

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Who, who had grievances because they didn’t get the best deer stand that they wanted to have. And so it was, it was kind of chaos that hearing. But I knew I was beat when it was over. And the committee, well actually Sid Yates’ aid came up and he… Read More

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And this was one welfare issue that came up. And so I had to go down to Washington DC with one of my staff members who was a keeper, and he had helped organize it. ’cause he was a wildlife management major from Virginia Tech, but he also chewed tobacco. Read More

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The secretary of the institution es Dylan Ripley, he figured, this is Ted, this is on your plate, you know, this is, this is your bailiwick. You take care of the problem. So Ted, Ted Reed went down and Sam Hughes, who was the undersecretary at the Smithsonian, yours truly,… Read More

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And we put stands out in various areas and we made sure to keep them away from where we had the ELs deer in the pear Davis deer. So nobody would make a mistake and shoot the, the animals that were out in large paddocks. ’cause we had three acre… Read More

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If we’d taken out as many dose as we’d taken out bucks, it would’ve been a different situation. But we didn’t, so the males can be with lots of females, but each female gives birth to one or two or three, sometimes three phones. So what happened is that the… Read More

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