I could basically take anything off exhibit and bring it out there to study myself, which was great. So that’s, that was my involvement in this, in the John’s research operation. It was kind of a ancillary facility out at the University of Mar Maryland where the specimens would go back and forth. And, and Larry then got support from one of the, an early founder of FONZ, and that was Nick Arundel. And Nick Arundel’s father paid for him to go to Australia and collect data on the management of Australian marsupials. And that led ultimately to Larry’s master’s thesis on the management and care of marsupials in captivity, which was a huge monograph. It was like this thick. Yeah.
