The original. And the renovation. The original renovation, I worked with the architects. I work with really closely with the people that did all the rock work, but that was kind of a joint project. I mean, I didn’t have total say over it, but I certainly was involved in… Read More
What were the species?… Read More
What did you get these things?… Read More
What things where you learning that you were able to apply to the zoo when you got back?… Read More
Well, in Munich, they had free ranging tamarins, which we’d never tried. They also had basically free ranging Gibbons, it was the Frankfurt zoo, their Small Mammal Facility, which was really great. Read More
I mean, we just were able to pick up new ideas for new exhibits and what it entailed and what the costs were, who was manning it?… Read More
And that continued all the way through until Ted Reed left. And then things started to change dramatically. And I’ll get into that, I guess, later. But yeah, CRC was a real coup and it’s served us very well. And Steve’s done a really incredible job up there, especially with… Read More
Now, you’ve mentioned that ’74 or you started or you toured European zoos, how did that come about?… Read More
You were just told to go?… Read More
Well, yeah, basically, but what happened was he had sent the then general curator over and one of the educators and he went over and I think he got as far as Barcelona and he turned around and came back and I never really understood what happened, but he just… Read More
Well, I think I’d mentioned earlier that Ted, I think he was really influenced by what went on at the San Diego Wild Animal Park with Schroeder and he wanted this. I mean, it was something that he had thought about and talked about. And when John Perry came on… Read More
The one guy that was assistant head keeper was one of the first people from the zoo to go up there to work on the fence, which was a huge undertaking. I mean, this area that he had to have fenced in was like 1000 acres, I mean, it was… Read More
And we hired a lot of good people to work up there. And it’s still, I mean, Steve Monfort’s taking that, we’ve got, what’s the university, I just lost it. Anyway, we’re heavily involved with the local university there, and they’ve got dorms, they’ve got research labs that the students… Read More
If we wanted it, yes. Especially the small mammals. I mean, we got elephant shrews, we got 10 ricks, we got pacas, wheatears, I believe they were working on. So when they were finished with their work, if we wanted them in the collection, we could get, and oftentimes, they… Read More
And I think we took pretty much every species that they had available. Now, you had mentioned Front Royal and wanna kind of hit on that. Read More
Number one, what was your involvement in Front Royal?… Read More
And can you give us kind of this history of the place?… Read More
And we’d already pointed out that there was a major problem with the dorcas because we were losing calves from specific females that had been bred to specific males because they were so closely related. Kathy took that information and ran with it. And I know Horsely was really angry… Read More
I don’t think that we ever had any major issues with working with the research people and especially with Front Royal, CRC, we worked with them pretty closely, especially with some of the small mammals and with a lot of the hoofstock. Now, the research collection had their own animals… Read More
After their research was done, did that come to the collection then?… Read More