It’s in the middle of nowhere, so it’s hard to raise money and they’re not gonna come to Cleveland or Columbus and raise money because we’re raising money for our zoos there. And admissions was, was minimal because it’s a long way. Now with that said, Columbus Zoo saved it,… Read More
Well, I wouldn’t call it a luxury. I think it’s really nice that, again, St. Louis is the one that’s just now doing that. But you know, San Diego and then fortunately we’re in, in Ohio, we have the wilds. When I got to Cleveland, the money, the, the land… Read More
So we have to be really restrictive to make sure we deal with the most vulnerable species, I think. Read More
We will never, zoos can’t save everything. We have to be very particular what we can work with and can’t work with and, and, and work together. I’ve, as you know, because you’ve been involved in these programs too, you know, the hoofstock people have to come together and say,… Read More
It’s very much underutilized. And if they had the right funding, they could do a lot more out there. They already have oppy and giraffes. They have like 20 or 30 whooping cranes, that’s a whooping cae breeding area. So there’s lots of, there is some spaces available, but again,… Read More
It always will be a problem, but I’m, I’m, I, I think, well the space is c caused by two things. One, we keep lesser animals, fewer animals in larger spaces, so we don’t have as many species et cetera. And two, we just don’t have enough space. You know… Read More
Do you feel that space continues to be a problem for zoos and aquariums?… Read More
At least from my very tell you. Yeah. Well, yeah. It’s interesting. And I know they’re working on this too. Yes. At least when I was there, and I think it’s still the same, the local conservation program got the most money saving turtles in Cleveland as opposed to lions… Read More
They’re changing the whole rainforest to be forest now and to tie in how we need to conserve forest in Ohio with forest worldwide. So when people, people understand how we need forests in Ohio. So I, I think people are starting to understand that. But that’s a good question. Read More
So a lot of zoos have this quarters for conservation program where a part of your admission goes to field conservation outside the walls, it can go to the cheetah fund, it can go to any other bonafide conservation program. They also have ways that say 50% over a dollar… Read More
Did you find that the public in Cleveland putting in this token was favoring like one program way more than another?… Read More
So they buy a token? Yeah, they buy it. Yeah. No, they don’t buy it. So the mission’s $20, so 50. So as soon as you buy it, you get a token and that’s 50 cents. And then that token you put in, and that’s called quarter. It was started… Read More
Did you start that?… Read More
So they, from the moment they come in the zoo, they understand what the zoo is doing for field conservation. Remember I talked about field conservation versus other forms of conservation. So I think that’s very important that people understand what, what the zoo is about and if they, and… Read More
So, so people, most people look at what’s this?… Read More
Hmm. Well I, I am not sure this is the answer, but the, to try to get people to understand that what zoos are doing for conservation and Ccle Cleveland has done a great job. When I left, they built this, it’s probably 40 by 40 feet kiosk in a… Read More
What do you think is the most, one of the most difficult concepts for zoos to understand and implement regarding their relationship to conservation?… Read More
You talked about conservation before. Read More
And so they’re still part of that whole thing. And then when Steve Burns was in Idaho at Zoo Boise, he worked with the park. He had a, oh, I can’t remember the guy’s name, but he’s a wealthy person, actually lives in Sun Valley. But he got them really… Read More
I suppose it’s viable. I think more likely it’s to work with a national park. Akron is very close to Cuyahoga National Park, so they’ve done some coyote studies together and some other kinds of studies together. Or if you’re close to a national park like Yellowstone, like the Wolf… Read More