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Interview 8364 – Caption Index: 283

I had a vision of being green and flowered because everything grows so well down there. But what I wanted to do first is get a horticulturist interested in coming to the zoo. And I found one in the park department and I offered him a job as the first… Read More

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And I want it to be close to the exhibit.” And that’s how we developed even the walkthrough any exhibit. I would build out of artificial rock crevices with glass in a just so big for one child to stand in. So that that little kid could be right there… Read More

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Now one of your projects was to regreen the zoo. Read More

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How much support did you get for that?… Read More

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And what kind of effort did it take to do it?… Read More

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Were there any where the people ought to say, or were there subtleties or bigger differences that you picked up on as far as the zoo was concerned in relationship to the community?… Read More

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You know, Texas is unique. There’s nothing like Texas and thank God for that, I love it down there. But what I love about it is the people, they’re so honest and easy to get along with if they like you and you don’t try to make them something that… Read More

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And when he heard that I was gonna move to San Antonio, he said, “Boy, I don’t think you and Phyllis are gonna like raising your kids there.” I said, “Why?… Read More

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It seems like a great opportunity.” He said, “They’re different. You need to worry about the racial differences, you know?” And so when we went there to visit San Antonio, I thought about that. And Phyllis said to me, “But maybe we oughta go talk to the priest, the Catholic… Read More

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I had the tilapia in the water. I had the hippos in one part, but I also had South American animals in another part sitting along the river. So I decided what I needed to do was if I want people to walk through that exhibit, I needed to put… Read More

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What kind of cultural differences did you see from your experiences on these other places that you might have noticed in Texas?… Read More

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Because of our trips to Africa, especially to Africa, my first effort, and because I was talking with those slides that I did in Africa to get funding and support from various organizations, I thought the first thing should be an African plains exhibit, but I didn’t just want an… Read More

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And along that exhibit will be other exhibits that help it be a mixed feeling of being in Africa, starting with the African plains.” I was going to put giraffes in the background on a raised level. And that would be the backdrop along the 60 foot cliff of rock. Read More

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That by the way, had already put together these people. For example, I had some excellent people who are craftsmen. They could make artificial wood out of concrete, you know, and beautiful. They had special dyes that they developed in Mexico that looked like tree bark. So I said to… Read More

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But it wasn’t long and again, I went back to my old friends, McFadzean and Everly, and those architects and planners that were quite good. They were always good. They knew what I wanted and how I wanted it done. And it worked to my advantage and I stayed with… Read More

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So the board was supportive of the master plan and paying for it?… Read More

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Yes, they were paying for it and it wasn’t until the last couple years of my tenure that things got tight, not only at the zoo, but everywhere. In the mid ’90s, early ’90s, money was pretty tight in all communities. And so it sort of slacked off. And that’s… Read More

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What was the first thing of the master plan after the infrastructure of the hay storage and food storage and so forth from an exhibitry standpoint that you wanted to get done and that you started and accomplished?… Read More

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Now, did you start a master plan at that zoo right away or did it kind of percolate a little before you wanted to get to that level?… Read More

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I didn’t start the planning until I had finished the first major project was to have placed the store the food stuffs for the animals in large quantities, where I could buy in large quantities instead of going to the market every week at the wholesale market and buying a… Read More

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