I was trained. I was a trainer and I also was lecturing. That’s where I started taking animals and being on local television and things like that. But I also started realizing that communication. I had an indication in those days, that communication was probably the name of the game. We have to learn to communicate. I wasn’t so passionate about saving wildlife in those days or the natural world. I remember it was my interest, but I hadn’t quite figured out that this is the message that we had to get out to the public.