But setting up that program was sure gen A genius on my part. ’cause I wasn’t, now, occasionally I would do it myself, you know, at Christmas time or something when somebody can, but I had no, those women, mostly women were very good. If they were on vacation or… Read More
And again, working, being in the management team of the zoo society, you had the development people, you had the concessions people, XO yang, he was, you know what he chow taught me one thing, how to count money. You always, you always take your money and you put it… Read More
So I can’t say enough good things about. And I worked a lot. I mean, Saul and I were friends in the sense, I mean, he was a director. I, he was a great guy and it was nice to have to, he’d invite me to the house for dinner… Read More
So we were set up to raise baby animals if needed to in an animal nursery. And I don’t know, soon after I arrived and I had all that experience from the children’s zoo in San Francisco where I worked, I’m sorry, in Los Angeles where I worked most of… Read More
I did because there was a nursery. And one of the things that I did, I guess it’s one of the things I’m most proud at about, so I’d inherited this children’s zoo that had goats and things. And then they had a few cages, like of a raccoon. We… Read More
So I had three shifts of people that would come in to the children’s zoo from, from the start of my start until, until I left. You know, one was like from eight o’clock to 11, one was from noon to four and one was from five to nine at… Read More
And you mentioned you physically lived in the zoo?… Read More
Had a good group of people that i, I got to work with. I was really glad to do that. Read More
They built a wolf wilderness exhibit. They eventually built a big gorilla exhibit. So there was some changes on its way, even the years that I spent there. Now, I wasn’t responsible for any of those, I was responsible for the children’s zoo. However, I was responsible for two other… Read More
And Saul lived on the other side in a, in a house. Read More
And what were your, what kind of zoo did you find when you got to San Francisco?… Read More
The zoo itself? Well, it had some older exhibits too. Now my part was just the children’s zoo, but, but of course at night I walked around the zoo. I had a great time. In fact, I jogged, I used to do my running route around the zoo. So it… Read More
Well, that’s when I met you. I went to a conference when we used to have regional conferences in Sylmar. And when my master’s thesis, which I never really turned in, but I, I didn’t think it was on mother infant behavior of Ur Horn orx. And they accepted me… Read More
It was leaving and going to a deer park in, in southern California. So the opening to the children’s zoo manager job in San Francisco. So I saw that and I was interviewed and I came up to San Francisco at one time and, and interviewed for the job there… Read More
And you take a test, you talk to pe. How does it happen?… Read More
And you go to San Francisco in 1976, right?… Read More
Because it happened when I was at la. So in LA I had saved enough vacation and, and I actually through Warren Thomas, I got names. So I took a Greyhound bus and went to 19 zoos in 30 days on a Greyhound bus. And that’s where I met when… Read More
Well, I think then that helped me. I mean, working in a zoo, I saw, you know, you saw the animals, you saw good and the bad. So, you know, if the space was too small or they were keeping animals behind the scenes for no reason, you know, that… Read More
Or did you already have a vision?… Read More
And how does this come about San Francisco When You’re in la Can I go back to, to my idea of forming zoos for a second?… Read More