They go, well, can you promote our programs? I said, sure. We took, as you walked out of everything, we took a room about this size and that we’re doing the interview in, and all we did was promote California Game and Fish and their programs for conservation. And they… Read More
We had a whole school program going. And, and the first four months we had 3000 students come through that facility because they just didn’t have anything in that area unless they went all the way to the l la which was from Ontario. They couldn’t afford it bus wise. Read More
I had Marmite who was working with Marmots. Nobody was working, but I did Horry. Marmite and I worked with the California game and Fish Department and they sent us stuff. We were breeding river boas, Rosie Boas. I had southern, Southern alligator lizards. We were breeding and working with… Read More
And I said, what can I do to help?… Read More
We had bobcat, we had, what else?… Read More
We bought a, a great person that knew how to really develop a, a shop. And we had our own logo on a bunch of clothes and stuff called American Wilderness Experience. And you walked in, got on a sim ride that took you through a forest following a puma,… Read More
And I said, okay, we’re gonna build it. My problem is, I don’t know what kind of resistance we’re gonna get from animal extremists, animal organizations that are anti zu, especially ’cause we’re in a mall. And the Pomona Humane Society said, don’t worry about it. If there’s a problem,… Read More
And we did what was called a deciduous Northern California habitat. And of course everybody was afraid that it was a zoo in a mall. And so I went out and got with the Pomona Humane Society, which was right in Ontario, California, which is where we were doing it. Read More
Why are you saying no to this and changing this?… Read More
And he goes, you’re gonna build this thing. And the first one we’re doing is Ontario, California. And we did, we, we, I’ve got photographs in my portfolio of the stuff we did. We put Disney to shame with what we, we created a redwood, we did all native species… Read More
So I, I went through a bunch of it with them and I said, you know, here’s what you need to do. This is animal care management and welfare, and that’s what you gotta pay attention to. ’cause you’re gonna be in a mall and that’s gonna scare people. So… Read More
Why are you doing it?… Read More
And he came down and Pat showed him this. He goes, you know, here’s, here’s some suggested changes. And of course they’d spent months designing this thing and I’d kind of wiped it out in two days. And so Jonathan Pat come out of their meeting and they said, I… Read More
And he called me and said, Hey, we’re doing this project, would you come in and look at what we’re doing?… Read More
And I said, sure. So he had an office down in Coconut Grove and I, I went down there and met him and Jonathan Stern had shown up and they were having a meeting. And after two days of being there, I had pretty much red marked almost everything. These… Read More
And so I did a number of presentations like that for Zeus along the coast, and that was part of the company. And then while I was doing that, pat McBride had called me up and they had started working for Ogden Entertainment. And there was a gentleman there by… Read More
I think it was called Great Bear, maybe it was Grizzly experience, may may have been it. And he wanted to get into that business. So he had gone to Pat McBride, who was a friend of his down in Miami and said, here’s what I wanna do. I want… Read More
Anyway, they had me come out and said, okay, what do we need to do to prepare for hurricanes pre, during and post?… Read More
And which was the last exhibit I did. And I told, you know, I told the, the director or park and rec director at the time when that exhibit opens, that’s, I’m leaving, this is my last project. And I’d found a horse farm in Ocala. I, and growing up… Read More
I’d gone to Jacksonville, Florida Zoo, I went to New Orleans Zoo. One of the things I was doing was hurricane preparation. And if, and if you talk to those institutions, well, I don’t know if the same people are there because I guess he went and be the curator… Read More