I was gonna finish it in Portland, ’cause I had time there and I didn’t do it. Then in Oklahoma City, I even had a contract to write a book on zoos with apprentice. And Conway wrote me a letter. He says, “I understand you’ve got a contract.” And he… Read More
The West? Oh, with the convention, wait a minute now. When you were at Oklahoma City. Yes. Read More
When did you make the decision that, I want to do something else?… Read More
‘Cause you left Oklahoma City. Read More
You were at the Oklahoma City Zoo approximately 15 years?… Read More
How did you decide, or when did you decide that, “Well, enough’s enough?” And and what was your frustration with the convention?… Read More
About 16 actually, yeah, I started a little early. Read More
No. Well, now there was another book, which Conway edited, I believe in the ’70s. Read More
Yes. I wrote two chapters for that. That’s not what you’re talking about, though. Okay well, I guess I just dropped the ball if I didn’t say anything about reptiles in there. I’ll have to revise that and offer to update it. Read More
I think it was “Mammals in Captivity.” Is that correct?… Read More
What?… Read More
You wrote about in the book. “Fundamentals,” you had a chapter on mammals. Did I? Well, I haven’t read that in years. Okay. Read More
I didn’t have anything on reptiles?… Read More
Why not reptiles?… Read More
And Ruther finally, really told Clyde, took him aside. We were having a meeting at Portland. I’d been there about a month, and I wanted to get this thing out. And Clyde just insisted. He’d take something then I’d say, “Okay, that’s good, let me, I’ll rewrite that.” And then… Read More
Ruther was my counterbalance on Clyde Hill. I told Ruther, you know, “I’m not gonna change.” He want Hill, I guess he didn’t have anything else to do. Now, Hill’s a very nice guy. And he and I were very friendly before this. but I just, you know, this is…… Read More
Well, Clyde somehow got, took it upon himself to read the manuscript and find all kinds of things that he disagreed with, nothing factual. I had made a comment that among the different, you know, you can have a taxonomic theme with a zoo, a whole zoo, or geographic. You… Read More
And I remember, oh, Ron Ruther! You remember Ruther?… Read More
Then do it. Do it.” So I took that, I was at Fort Worth. And about that time the shit hit the fan, and I went to Portland. And so I didn’t do anything on that for about six months or about a year, but I finished it. And then… Read More
Clyde Hill. Do you remember Clyde?… Read More