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Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 203

So we did that. And then as I said, a donor came along and said, you need a new hospital?… Read More

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Very much so. I wanted to do an elephant exhibit from the moment I got to Cleveland, but we kept putting it off ’cause of cost and stuff. So we started, had to finish the rainforest and we did that and then I, I don’t know if the commission of… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 199

Maybe, but it just wasn’t necessary. So when we took the hippo out of the old elephant exhibit, we, we built him a hippo condominium in the giraffe barn. We were expanding the giraffe barn anyway, so we just built with a pool where he retired for three years. He… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 200

So he had this crate for rhinos or something and Alan thought it was like a foot too short. So we spent a week with like two welders adding onto it. So it was perfect and it worked perfectly. We got the crate c crane it in, took it to… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 196

Did you sometimes find yourself, you call value engineering?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 197

Maybe it’s a different word building, designing the Cadillac. But building the Chevrolet, I wouldn’t go that far. I think we designed somewhere between a Cadillac and a Chevrolet and kind of maybe did, did a really nice Chevrolet. I don’t know. You know, i I, I don’t know what… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 198

So did that make it less of an exhibit?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 194

We had, we were converting an old building, we needed to protect the ceiling. So there’s a lot of things that, a lot of details. We had great architects were very helpful and in that case we had a good contractor too. I love design, I hate construction. Construction is… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 193

Well, we had everybody including our park commission and my boss. But we had keepers involved and, and veterinarians involved at some level. I don’t know if they came to every meeting, but certainly everybody was. And you know, we put, we put the plans out there and let anybody… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 195

But we, we worked through everything and there were some shouting matches between groups, but we, from the staff level, we included everybody including the Zeus society that was part of the funders. So at least you know, the land management of the Zeus society and in some cases even… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 191

He probably, I mean you can’t prove that, but that apparently statistically that worked out well. So he found out a lot about following certain elephants for 20 years. He learned a lot about elephants in their societies. He could, he could not by, he had little cards with pictures… Read More

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Now when you were doing the exhibits and putting them together, what staff did you include in the development of these exhibits?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 190

We had a lot of endangered species, a lot of species that could use money. So if we ever any problem, we would just go to another project. But most of ’em are very successful. I love supporting Charles Foley’s Elephant research in Tara and Gary. One ’cause I love… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 188

Have any of your conservation programs that you wanted to do had difficulties in getting off the ground and why?… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 187

And I was really damn lucky that didn’t happen. So I feel I had a successful career. We talked about conservation. Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 189

Well, I don’t know that any of ’em did have difficulty that we, we really got involved with. I mean, it’s easy to give people money. So I, I don’t know that we did the zoo’s really, really involved now in, in gorillas. And they’re doing very well with funding… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 184

Our park ranger knew to park his truck in front of that door. He just pulled it up to the door so the door couldn’t be shut out. So, but as far as a, a dangerous animal escape or any other animal escape, I, I don’t remember any. We were… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 185

And even the volunteers are all trained. I get a volunteer newsletter that says this month they’re doing an escape drill for cheetahs. Be aware. And they tell us what we’re supposed to do all the time. You’re supposed to make sure you’re safe and get the public to safety… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 186

And, and you know, they trained the police, they had the police department come in and all that. And lo and behold, they had a gorilla get out and the police came in and shot it. They didn’t do anything that was on the drill. And so you best plans… Read More

Interview 31514 – Caption Index: 182

I get out there starting to get light at six in the morning. Di the flood water had gone down a lot. And then the back step of the rainforest, which is about as high as this loading dock was about like this table, there was a tart carp about… Read More

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