And so they’re still part of that whole thing. And then when Steve Burns was in Idaho at Zoo Boise, he worked with the park. He had a, oh, I can’t remember the guy’s name, but he’s a wealthy person, actually lives in Sun Valley. But he got them really… Read More
And, and that really helped change the laws as did Jack Hannah because he was good friends with the governor and they created this exotic animal ordinance. So that’s, that’s a good thing, not just every Joe public can have a lion or a tiger. There was a program adopt… Read More
’cause we just don’t have the capacity. So it’s a good thing in one way because it, it extends our ability to keep capacity, to keep the things we need to have a self-sustaining captive population, whether it’s rhinos or giraffes or there’s not many gorillas or clip springer or… Read More
So there are a lot of concerns dealing with private people, but I think zoos regularly work with ’em particularly, I think, wouldn’t you say with reptiles and, and birds?… Read More
So all accredited zoos have an ability to sustain their collections and in emergencies where some private people, if the owner dies, might not. So that’s another concern. Read More
Can you sustain yourself for a while?… Read More
And they’re even are, they’re even some big private companies that are a ZA accredited, I can’t remember the one in California that’s good. But there’s a couple that are accredited and work with our, our ethics dealing with private people. You know, we have a form and they have… Read More
I mean, one of the questions you have in accreditation is, you know, what happens if there’s a COVID break outbreak and you don’t have any visitors?… Read More
I, it just wouldn’t be be right. Read More
And so that becomes a little, I think you can still give animals to the big ranches in Texas, but they can’t be, those particular animals can’t be hunted. I don’t know, particularly in a can we’ll call a canned hunt, which is, you know, you’ll come into a small… Read More
But does that mean we can’t give it to one of the ranches that do a good job?… Read More
Well there’s a what what do you mean by the partners?… Read More
There are different things in partners. Certainly we use a lot of private breeders with reptiles and birds. I don’t say a lot, but I think we do that more with, more with that than with mammals. But there’s certainly private breeders of mammals I think we work with. It’s… Read More
What do you think about the, the role private breeders can be as partners with ze?… Read More
So we, we phased out the, the Reese’s monkeys went eventually went to some mixed species exhibit with CBU and hi racks and clip Springers and that kind of thing and fit, fit better. Read More
I, you know, at one time maybe there were 40, 50 Reese’s monkeys, number one, we didn’t need to be keeping Reese’s monkeys or a common animal. They were in our a near our African section. I didn’t like that. And so eventually we were able to not breed ’em… Read More
I think Europe does quite a bit of it still. I’m not quite sure. I didn’t even try it in Cleveland. I didn’t think I had the support of the curatorial staff and we didn’t have a big ho stock collection anyway, so I’m not against it from a scientific… Read More
How does a zoo deal with euthanasia with surplus animals? Management Euthanasia is controversial. I was able to do it in Sacramento, particularly with Hoofstock. You know, hoofstock are like cows, we eat cows. It was a little easier. I mean the keepers, maybe they didn’t like it but they… Read More
And, and I don’t have any, we may get into this, I don’t have any objection to rides as long as they don’t distract some zoos that the, the rides distract from the animal experience. In other words, you look at this beautiful giraffe exhibit behind them, you see, you… Read More
So finding new ways to have funding. I think we’ve been actually very successful in that even since I’ve left Cleveland Metro Parks 12 years ago as director, they’ve done some incredible things. Built a nice party center, it provides the revenue, they have weddings there and everything and I… Read More