Oh yes, yeah. Yeah they did. Any that stand out, that you’re happy they came to you, and- Well, I think that the guy who, the fellow who did research with our, with the siamangs, I think, it wasn’t he was manipulating them or anything, but he was observing them. Read More
Then you take them out, and they’re sure to be a breeder. And that’s really what happened. That was mostly my research actually, with that way. But he came on and observed them, and he stayed there at night. I let him sleep outside in the zoo, because he observed… Read More
Can you tell us the story about Koko as you had to pick it up, and what lessons could be learned about dealing with scientists or science?… Read More
Was it important to you or to the zoo at the time you were there?… Read More
Well, important yes. But I would say that I didn’t go out, and I didn’t really try to get people to do it. Do research, that kind of thing. If someone came to me and I would listen to a proposal for, and maybe agree to it, which did happen. Read More
People did come to you with proposals?… Read More
They had people who had been around, sort of. Yeah, definitely that, and it was, I enjoyed it myself. I thought it was okay. Read More
While you were director, was science or research important to you?… Read More
I mean, you’d come from a research background. Read More
What did, purpose did it fulfill?… Read More
Basically, yes. Basically. It was an educational thing, but obviously that didn’t preclude it being enjoyable. And they did a lot, they did breeding there too, believe it or not. You know, they had a pair of swans that for years and years, they had a pair of mute swans… Read More
And they hired, they had zoo people running it, you know?… Read More
Well, I had control over it, yes. Final control was mine, yeah. Read More
How successful was this Children’s Zoo?… Read More
Was it an educational purpose?… Read More
They built it apparently. I mean, they did, they built the zoo and they staffed it. They hired the personnel. Read More
You didn’t have control over it as director?… Read More
How has zoos changed?… Read More
And specifically San Francisco, and how do you think that change that you were trying to initiate affected the animals, good, bad indifferent?… Read More
Well, I think that the animals were affected in I think a positive, quite a positive way. I think a positive way, yeah. And of course the story that you told to the public and the people loved to, you know, people liked the zoo and they came out to… Read More