Not a sign there, don’t say a word, because you’re not gonna have to. Everybody that sees this is gonna sit down next to this guy, and they’re gonna know. (laughing) They’re gonna know what you say, they’re gonna know what the story is, and that’s exactly what happened. And… Read More
Did you reach out to the Chinese?… Read More
What were you trying to do in that exhibit that hadn’t been done before?… Read More
The primate center?… Read More
Well we were, well one of the things we did was we integrated a whole bunch of interactive displays, educational displays, with the live exhibits. There was a whole bunch of them in the, you know, that people could go and use, interactively use, and find out things about all… Read More
Well, her husband built those homes (laughing) and he made an awful lot of money, and he died and he left the money to her, and she liked primates, she actually liked primates. She had primates, monkeys of her own. And she said she wanted, she gave a million dollars… Read More
This must have been- Go ahead. And it filled, it fit into the master plan, you know, certainly. But your specialty, or you like primates, so that must have been- Well but, I know- Well, it was on my mind, but the cats were also on my mind because they… Read More
What was going on that you started thinking about that?… Read More
We needed, we needed facilities for all of the apes and the monkeys, and I mean, in a full way. And there should be, you know, not these, all these same cages, that it’s, you know, it’s really silly. So they went, the Society was soliciting funds, and there was… Read More
You know, he built all these homes, and you may have heard a old, sort of a modern folk song, “Houses made out of ticky-tacky,” did you ever hear that?… Read More
And Sulak was, Michael Sulak was in the office when this happened. We opened up the exhibit to the public and people came lots. And there was a guy, a man, that came to the office and he knocked on the door. And you know, we said, “Come in.” You… Read More
I didn’t know the guy, you know, and that was good. ‘Cause he had said that, “Well, I’ve been going to the zoo ever since I was a little kid, and nobody ever did this for the animals.” So that was a great, that made me very proud. Now this… Read More
How did you start to form that idea?… Read More
Well, the golden monkeys we brought in went into the primate center, that was done by that time. They were, they went into the Primate Discovery Center. Well then let’s- Okay, let’s talk about that. Read More
How did that vision for the Primate Discovery Center come about?… Read More
Well, you know, the primate cages, the cages that, the monkeys were in cages, the apes were on concrete. They just were outdated, antiquated exhibits. And now what we built was, we built a, The Gorilla World exhibit. That was what, was part of that money that we got from… Read More
Yeah, but that wasn’t in a bear grotto. No but I mean, so you were looking to bring in- Well, that was part of the part of a, yeah, yeah. Read More
It was part of a building program?… Read More
Or as part of an education program?… Read More
What were some of your other things that you were, that were on the books that you were trying to put together?… Read More