What was his- He was one of the camp boys. Well, I saw him when we did our exercises and things, I’d see him in there. Pat was so proud of him years later when he’d see how famous he became. You did this job, running the farm camp, but… Read More
How did you know him?… Read More
Oh yeah. They could see success. When you put an egg under a hen, 21 days later, you got a chicken, that’s success. You mentioned George Foreman, who became heavyweight champion of the world. Read More
So you think this program was good for the young men that you were managing?… Read More
Yeah, did you have to… Well, they had to report to work and they had to keep their paperwork up on what their food bill was and their breeding programs and all that stuff. I think that program today is very needed in this country, I really do. Read More
An example?… Read More
No. I hope so, no. Give me an example. Read More
Did you let these kids get away with things?… Read More
No, I think I’m pretty soft to a point, and then I’m not very soft. Read More
Were you a tough guy or disciplinarian?… Read More
How would you describe your style of management then?… Read More
I just took them and introduced them to a lot of experiences and riding the horses and breaking the horses and getting the back of a pickup truck, throwing rocks at jackrabbits, all the things that young guys like to do. Read More
Or what was your strategy to get them to work together?… Read More
No. Read More
Did you find it hard to get these kids to cooperate?… Read More
And there was a little pen. So when I got there, I started politicking and when I left there, we had a new barn, we finally got a new barn in and had hutches of rabbits and pens of chickens and peacocks and guineas, and all kinds of things. And… Read More
I wasn’t that happy there I don’t think because I didn’t stay there. Then Litton must have come around, Litton Industries. Litton industries was opening Job Corps in Camp Parks. And you applied for that job. I got it. They had a farm program, I remember that. They wanted you… Read More
You went- Ghirardelli. Ghirardelli. Ghirardelli Square. Tell me about that. Ghirardelli Square near the Warf in San Francisco. The gentleman there was a Greek guy and he wanted to have some activity with birds and things there. So we ended up with some penguins, I got some penguins from Brian… Read More
You gotta make some money, where did you go?… Read More
So you quit the zoo, what do you do after you quit the zoo?… Read More