You know? And it turned out I was gonna be in competition with a university that was going for going through the same people for essentially the same money. And I thought, oh my gosh, this is not gonna work out. And I, I would come home, you know, after… Read More
Well now you, when you say you retired, you, you had 40 years with the institution, which is unusual, but can you discuss the reasons that would, that you thought about that a lot?… Read More
Here’s the deal. I so was so fortunate in my career at Shedd with the advancements and the increased responsibility and the ability to basically follow my passion directly for most of the positions I held that I just felt didn’t feel a strong desire to move on. And I… Read More
Wanted that you wanted to stay so long in one place?… Read More
So-and-so about this aspect of our operations now, you know, can you gimme an update?… Read More
You know, what, what, here’s what they’re probably gonna ask. What are we doing now? So it was, you know, kind of a, an oversight thing again. But I was the lone wolf with that. I had no staff or anything. It just felt like, I’m not sure how long… Read More
I’m like, Hey, you know what?… Read More
I need to go to Washington to talk to. Read More
But it, it, you know, the good thing about it was I got to go to say education or conservation research. Read More
Yes, I could go visit them, but I had no oversight anymore. Direct oversight of the animal collection. So anyway, over time, you know, I thought, well, okay, here’s what I think the job should do and communicate that to the boss and make it work. And it served me… Read More
And again, because I was taken away from the animal collection, you know what I mean?… Read More
I remember meeting with people and I’m thinking, I gotta look for another job. I, I don’t know if this is gonna last, how this is gonna work out. I was just so cruShedd at the time. Read More
I thought, what is this position he’s talking about?… Read More
For instance, our public relations people did all the, the media work, you know, I mean, if I needed to be called in, I’d be auxiliary to it. But I thought when he said that, I thought, oh my gosh, I, I’m being phased out. Read More
And he said, I’m gonna do some rearrangement. And he says, among other things I’m gonna make you head of, I’m not sure if it was legislative and external affairs, or it might have been legislative and regulatory affairs. The title changed a little bit, but essentially the same responsibilities. Read More
He said, can you meet me down in bubble net, the cafeteria when it wasn’t being used by the public?… Read More
Why you do you have to interview for it?… Read More
Now in 2001, you have another job change as senior vice president of regulatory and external affairs, how do you get this position?… Read More
This was one of my darkest moments at Quarium. I never saw this coming. I was loving director of animal collections position. I met with the then director. Read More
Good, good people, very, very confident, very compassionate people in many cases. And generally just good to work with. Read More