It’s really good. I said, yeah, but they do a lot of things that are not good, especially where your son’s working, you know, as a profession. And so she didn’t give to PETA anymore. But, but again, there’s a lot of, there’s a lot of common common tenets of,… Read More
You know, if you’ve got a family in Africa and your kids are starving and there’s one wildebeests left, you’re gonna shoot the wildebeests. ’cause you have no alternative. You gotta give people alternative. That’s why ecotourism is important, you know, that’s why we go over there too, so that… Read More
Oh, there’s a kill. Oh, I, I don’t think I wanna see that. Okay, but that’s Africa then. So I don’t think, I think they’re alienated from nature and they, and then they have the benefit of, of having a return of lifestyle that a lot of people don’t. So,… Read More
And, and so does conservation to some, I mean, animal welfare conservation is animal welfare in the wild, kind of, you know, if you want to look at it that way. But I think that 90, 95% of animal rights, people believe in what, what we believe in. You know,… Read More
Yeah. Animal welfare and animal rights are, they overlap a lot, right?… Read More
I’ve been on safaris with people, oh, you wanna see you?… Read More
Well, instead Of and welfare and animal Welfare. Read More
What’s your opinion about the balance of animal rights?… Read More
I, I became a little bit more animal rightsy. I’m not, not, I’m not a, you know, animal rights will talk about, you know, that, that’s more of a philosophical belief. But I, you know, I I really thought I developed much more of a, a, of a full understanding… Read More
Now it’s a passion of, you know, helping the animals, realizing that those animals that we’re seeing in zoos are doing okay in good zoos, but they’re counterparts in the wild. God. It’s, it’s tough out there, especially Africa where I go a lot. So I changed in, in terms… Read More
Well, we’ve touched on a few of them, but let, let me start with the evolution of Rick, because zoos changed my life dramatically. I started as, oh man, this is great. I’m running behind these rhinos, slapping ’em on the butt, you know, to get ’em inside. We did… Read More
What issues caused you the most concern during your career and how do you see the future regarding those concerns?… Read More
It depends on the person. I think you need a combination. I think it, it can, it can reinforce the message or it can substitute, it can replace the message, which is not a good thing. So the, the balance of artificial intelligence that we’re coming up with and the… Read More
You’re preempting some good questions here. I’m making you jump around too. No, you are. That’s okay. We’re gonna cover that. What, what issues though, and you had a long career within the, the zoo profession. Read More
So we, we’ve got a work cut out for us. But I still think that an experience, a firsthand experience is the most important thing that you can do for your audience. So the audience has changed. And the zoos are changing too. We’re just not changing fast enough. You… Read More
Good, bad. Should they be there?… Read More
Boy, well, when I was 55 years ago when I was ranger rick and a safari park, I I, I didn’t even look at the visitors very much. You know, they, they were there just to, you know, they were just checking the boxes and driving through and taking pictures… Read More
What changes have you seen during your years in the zoo field regarding visitor attitudes?… Read More
Well, again, they usually come in with the technical skills, but they don’t have the, the hands-on abilities. So I would send them to other zoos to benchmark and, and, and it’s a network too, so they get to know other people. ’cause a lot about leadership is, is, is… Read More
What kind of things would you emphasize?… Read More