He said, well, I got the Ator Rx and I put ’em out there like a herd and let them, you know, survive. And, and they were fine. And he says, and I worked with the, and I had directors back then, like Conway that understood it. The directors changed,… Read More
Well why? This is what the land’s worth more money. Just get rid of it. Again, the legacy has to be solid so that it’s passed on to the kids or somebody else. And I’ll, I’ll tell you what I’m doing at Long Neck Matter for that. ’cause I’m 73,… Read More
That’s a struggle for the last few decades. It’s worked. In some cases it doesn’t work long term. I was talking to David Bamberger, who’s 93 years old now. He was, he did, I don’t know if you know the name. He did Hor Orx on his ranch. He has… Read More
So I said, David, why didn’t it work in the long run?… Read More
How do you think that private breeders can be partners with zoos?… Read More
Tell ’em about Betty White. She was born on Betty White’s birthday. She’s had five calves. She’s a great mother. And she, and she would rather stay in the bar and then come outside half the time. You know, so just tell ’em what you’ve learned. You’ve gotta do the… Read More
It’s anthropomorphic, but it works. And it’s the way we should, we should move forward with that On another event. Zoos have to at sometimes acquire animals. Read More
And, and then maybe it’s about giving to people, right?… Read More
They care about, and the keepers are your frontline fundraisers, not your director. You know, when people come to the zoo, they’re talking to a keeper, usually they’re not talking to the zoo director. So you have to, you have to have keepers. We call ’em animal care specialists now. Read More
You know, yes. And, and, but they’re little steps. You know, we talk about the behavior change. You can change a visitor’s perspective, but you don’t do that by attacking them. When they first come in saying, oh, do you realize, you know how urgent this is and we need… Read More
Is there methodologies that can help them buy into it?… Read More
So now they care about the animal, then you go to their head and then you can educate them. And then you can say, well, you know, these guys are doing okay, but they could use help in the wild. And we have organizations that we can help. And then… Read More
You know, is it 3% of your budget? Is it 5% of your budget?… Read More
Do visitors, are there ways that one can engage visitors to help conservation to give when they’re at the zoo to give money?… Read More
But it needs to be part of your budget because I don’t think zoos can exist if they’re not proving that they can save, help save animals in the wild. If you can’t do that, I’m not so sure you can justify why you should have animals in captivity. You’ve… Read More
Well, money always comes up as well. Conservation’s a nice to have if we have it in the budget. And most zoos do not budget for conservation. They ask for donations. You have to use your earned revenue that you make from the gate and sales. You have to put… Read More
And they do more. You can never, there’s no finish line in conservation. So, you know, you’re never gonna get to the point where we’ve done enough. Read More
There are some, there are many issues, but are, is there one or two or major issues that you’d like zoos to address in the future?… Read More
It, it’s a great idea. And, and it, the reason it didn’t work, and Conway, bill Conway called it extractive reserves. You know, we, we, we can, the zoo can also support kind of a, a, a park or, or a habitat in the wild that’s kind of a, a… Read More
But I think money and leadership is what is what challenged it. But it’s a great idea and it should. And there are some zoos, little Boise Zoo had a great in Idaho, had a great program with Steve Burns when he was there with, with the park in, in… Read More