How we exhibit animals, you know, the whole, well look at SeaWorld with orcas and the whole pressure from there, you know, the, the public has gained such, well, I think the public’s been misled by a number of organizations that are just anti zoo for whatever reason. And, and, you know, we talked about it. It’s like, let the animal go free, Willie. Well, Willie died, cago died, and it, it’s not, it’s not the same. You can’t do certain things, but that public has created the perception that zoos are bad places to be the bad welfare. And that has shaped a lot of the decisions that CEOs and directors have made and how they move forward. And in some cases, they do it to avoid conflict or avoid interaction. And I’m not a person that does that.
