And so apparently the three together were having all kinds of difficulties. And Saunders, who published all kinds of medical textbooks, realized this just wasn’t gonna work. And at that point, Bob Altman said, “The heck with it, I’m going to publish my, I can do books by myself,” and… Read More
I got called by Saunders Publishing Company, wanted me to be co-author of this book, and it had been in the works for several years. They had put a team together of about 20 or 30 different authors, each of them had different sections to do. One of them would… Read More
I’ll do marsupials as well as doing primates, and I’ll do this,” and so forth. And one by one it got down to where there was only three authors left. Joel Wallach doing all of mammals, Bob Altman doing birds, and then I’ll think of his name, who did reptiles. Read More
Yeah, everybody was looking at, you know, what can we do that that is better?… Read More
Now you have, we talked about publishing extensively and you have published extensively. Can you relate how you came to be the co-author with the gentleman you talked about earlier, Dr. Joel Wallach, with a book called “Diseases of Exotic Animals”, which is a pretty heavy tome. Read More
How did that come about?… Read More
Were you, or were you in St. Louis, one of the leaders in doing this kind of research?… Read More
Or were this being done in other zoos also?… Read More
Oh, I think this was being done in other zoos too. Read More
It’s not using its hind legs very well. I thought, well maybe the dart hit, kinda on a spinal column, or up there, and it you know, caused some difficulty there, and why it’s having difficulty in the back legs. And so I thought, “Well, we’d better go in and… Read More
And, you know, I told them, “Look, I don’t wanna publish anything about the tigers, the drug is fabulous.” And at that time they were getting ready to put it on the market for use in dogs and cats, not in, obviously the zoo market is not a big place… Read More
However, the dart’s a pretty good size, and it hits with some impact. It’s fine for a large animal, but a small animal, it’s a little bit, can be tough. At the time we made some darts, we’d seen some that somebody had had put together using the plastic disposable… Read More
What was the plane of anesthesia?… Read More
How much, what dosage did you use?” And so forth. And that had to get sent back to the company all the time to get more of the product. Maybe what you’re referring to is, at one point, it just was such a fabulous drug, except I used it on… Read More
You know, why didn’t the animal, why is the animal now having ataxia?… Read More
And publishing those details, or doing, what was going on then? You were?… Read More
Well yes, part of the arrangement with the drug company, they provided the drug, but I had to always provide a sheet, you know, “Well, how long did it take to become immobilized?… Read More
What were you doing with that and why?… Read More
Well again, the big difference with zoo medicine compared to I think, domestic animal medicine is that you’re usually always anesthetizing the animal. You’re immobilizing the animal, I guess. Difference being immobilizing is keeping it so that you could do something to it. Anesthetizing means that it’s not gonna have… Read More
And so CI-744 was, today it’s on the market as a product called Tilazol. But at that time it was extremely valuable immobilizing so many different species that really went down well, and after you were finished with your procedure, recovered well. So it did not have a specific antagonist,… Read More