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Interview 22122 – Caption Index: 318

Or you didn’t, that never came up?… Read More

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No, no, I would, would talk with Charlie, you know when, after he was retired, and still friends with Charlie. Read More

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Hmm, shoo boy. In terms of a mentor, I guess early on Charlie, you know, was certainly a mentor. I mean, I learned a lot from Charlie. Other, Murray Fowler was certainly somebody that I looked up to as a veterinarian. I mean when I was in school, the professors… Read More

Interview 22122 – Caption Index: 316

I mean when you had, okay, when you had something going on that was bothering you or you weren’t sure, did you as director, did you reach out to Charlie, ’cause he was the former director?… Read More

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Did you have that kind of relationship to say, “Look, I got an issue here,” and that kinda thing?… Read More

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I enjoyed budgeting. I mean I’ve always, you know, been able to keep things within budget, and control the finances fairly well. So yeah, I probably enjoyed that part of it. Through your time at the zoo, specifically maybe as director, some new things coming at you, some old things… Read More

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Was there ever, did you have a mentor, someone you could reach out to and talk to when you had issues or questions, either inside the zoo or outside?… Read More

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Were there situations as director where you learned something new?… Read More

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Well, I knew that, I would say that the president was very good at promoting the zoo, and very good at promoting himself also. And when he did, he always brought me along, and I’m not often as much of a self promoter, and he was able, you know, to… Read More

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Did you enjoy budgeting, or was it just something you had to do?… Read More

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Well I mean, I was still doing the same stuff that I did when I was assistant director. In a way, I was doing, I kinda oversaw development a little bit when, I mean, as assistant director I was over that, and I was no longer over that, which was… Read More

Interview 22122 – Caption Index: 308

And so when we would have various events at the zoo, sometimes I did have disagreements with maybe our development people in the sense of, “Well, why do we have to pay for all these special tablecloths?… Read More

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And man, those centerpieces are more than $100 a piece, and you know, we got 30 of them here, and gee whizz, you know?” And, “Oh, that recognition plaque’s, gosh, couldn’t we have gotten by with something a little less?” You know, I don’t know. You know, all I can… Read More

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Well, ’cause my question though, was how did that affect the zoo’s development and running?… Read More

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It didn’t. I mean it was essentially, we had a union, we listened to the union, but it really had very little control. I mean, in terms of budgets, in terms of raises, in terms of pay scale, in terms of everything that we did, we did you know, for… Read More

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What surprised you about the position of director in a good way and a bad way?… Read More

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It was something that was, I would say, Jeff Bonner was responsible there, Charlie Hoessle was responsible there, I was responsible there, and the curators were responsible there. We all felt the importance, and were involved with conservation activities. It was just that that kind of formalized it. Read More

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And how involved were you, or what direction did you play, in the future planning of the zoo?… Read More

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Well- Well of course we were always, it seemed like we were always involved in various master plans. Both physical master plans of the facilities themselves, but also master planning of the whole operation of the zoo. St. Louis is a union town. I presume you had union employees in… Read More

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Well, one of the biggest things that was changing at that time was, I mean we were always interested in conservation, but we changed a little bit in setting up, Wild Care Institute, we called it, which was a lot of conservation activities in other parts of the world, and… Read More

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