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Interview 24153 – Caption Index: 249

They arrived here about 9:00 or 9:30 in the morning. We finished unloading at three in the afternoon, four in the afternoon, something like that. One at a time in the barn, chained an individual, rear, front rear, front and rear chains, and chained in place, front and rear. As… Read More

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So Connie was one of these elephants?… Read More

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Come here. She’s out with the dog. She went outside. Oh, with the dog. Okay. Read More

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Yes. This was financed by a man in Miami. I sober. Oop, sober. A good man. Good in the sense that his money bought the elephants. I sold them. I got them, I sold them, and so on. I unloaded them with the two of us and about three other… Read More

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They were tough animals. They weren’t by any means tame. Rougher in hell. (chuckles) It took all day to unload the eight elephants. We were inspected that afternoon before we even had him 24 hours by a state inspector. Read More

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They’re well trained, very well cared for. He had previously bought I don’t know how many, two or four, something like that. I think two, and he had, I think, one out of that shipment. But anyway, he lives up five miles out the highway. The shipment came in to… Read More

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Who? Who, dear?… Read More

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What?… Read More

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The crates that they originally came in are (chuckles) out here, crumbling away. There were three, three, one, and one. That’s the number of animals kept in each crate. They were housed in the big barn, the eight. The barn was much different than it is now, the interior. The… Read More

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Another African, yeah. just ask the question again, just ’cause you brought it up. Tell me the story of Connie the elephant. Well, – Connie was one of eight that I imported in the late ’60s. I can’t remember the exact year. I have it right here. 1988. 1988. Okay. Read More

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Mostly successful?… Read More

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Mostly successful. In my own case, I would say totally unsuccessful. I trained Connie. I sold her to a circus where I thought she was, I knew she was going to. Somebody had another Asian. African. Read More

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What?… Read More

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Tried to. Read More

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Did you have to educate them?… Read More

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As best I remember, I went directly to Africa. I can’t tell you who, but I have the correspondence with African dealers somewhere out there. Read More

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Did you find that the people you were selling animals to in general, in the United States, were as knowledgeable about the animals that they were buying as you would like them to have been?… Read More

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No. Read More

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When you were dealing with your last shipment of elephants, or even the first one, you were working, did you have to work through a intermediary, like an animal dealer like Frans?… Read More

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