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When did that start and why?… Read More

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Well, let’s just kind of talk about that. You wrote edited material for the AZA book on Zoo Fundamentals. Read More

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Do you remember Walter Stone?… Read More

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Walter was president of the AAZPA, and I was on the board. And here again, zoo directors didn’t, they didn’t wanna rock the boat. You know, a lot of them were in park departments. And their park directors, you know, they didn’t want them breaking away. They needed our money… Read More

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Walter was pretty good at politics. And we didn’t get a lot of support from the zoo people, but we got it on the officers. With a problem that began, you know, with our own people. Then there was a huge problem with the park people at the head. At… Read More

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What was your impression of the AAZPA when it was part of the Parks Association Group?… Read More

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And what was the evolution as you understand it for AAZPA to break away from the parks?… Read More

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Excellent question. Excellent question. Read More

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They don’t want to hurt you. Generally, you’ll notice I said. Read More

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When that those trustees were there, that’s when it became pretty bad. He says, “I’ll come down that morning. And then I’ll take them aside, and I’ll tell them they can’t do that. And if they want to be on this prestigious zoo board, and be able to go to… Read More

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How did you deal with that?… Read More

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Well, first I tried to reason with them. And I would say 25% of the time that would work. They would get the picture and all that. Then though, another 75% it didn’t work. Then I would get one of their colleagues, that I could talk to, and just not… Read More

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And that vet doesn’t need any help really. If he needs help, he’ll go up to Stillwater, the Ag station”. So that would work about a fourth of the time. The colleague would take him aside and say, “Look, you know.” and they would listen to a colleague, but not… Read More

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And then we sold those ostrich, and we made a lot of money. Ranchers bought them, everybody wanted them. And then the, you know, it became a… I don’t know if you’re aware of it, the ostrich, and all those large birds became farmable. And McDonald’s was gonna offer ostrich… Read More

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And raising ostrich was extremely labor intensive before. No longer was it really, and we were able to. But again, we got, maybe in a year we’d get really 50, $60,000 net profit off of ostrich chicks. Read More

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What were your most frustrating times as director?… Read More

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With trustees that wanted to tell you how to run the zoo. Read More

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And they’d come with deformities and all that. Finally, we bought an adult male redneck ostrich in Kenya, that had been on an, there was an ostrich farm there. And this one was one they still had, he was a breeder. We brought him over. It cost a lot of… Read More

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You’ll have to kill them, euthanize them. And we finally figured out, well the vet did it. They were just such big birds. And if you fed them too much, their weight gain was so much that their legs, they’re developing now in this chick, just couldn’t hold them up. Read More

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And those four feeding stations had a little light on them, and they would, they were hooked up together. And they would open up and spit out some food pellets, some pellets. But it was strictly random. We put all these baby ostrich in there just the minute they started… Read More

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