But that had all smoothed out. And we were happy work with Ted, but he had to leave. And so Ripley asked me to be the acting director of the zoo. Called me down to his laboratory. He used to have a little bird laboratory. He had one, one day of the week on Thursdays. He’d go up to his bird laboratory and do research. So I drove in and I went up there and I met him and he asked me if I, we talked about birds and mammals of India for about a half hour.
