And we are willing, we’ll we’ll pay for your hotel, but you’ve gotta pay for the airfare. That’s a, a common request. And you go in and then you find actually the director of Hanoi Zoo doesn’t, doesn’t necessarily have the power to make some of the decisions that you… Read More
Because again, some projects that I’ve been involved in, for example, in Southeast Asia, in, in Malaysia, in Vietnam is you, if you take a, take a zuzu where we’ve been helping with Hanoi Zoo, for example, so the director of Hanoi Zoo may say, you know, can you send… Read More
It comes back to building the relationships with the people and very often identifying who the movers and shakers are in those situations. Read More
Some of that is, is is rather the same as as what we’ve just been talking about?… Read More
I think it’s a, there’s a nervousness about the financial aspects of it. There’s a nervousness often about the people you are dealing with. I mean, I’ve, I’ve had several instances over the years where you’re dealing with pretty corrupt people at the other end, again, again, I’m talking about… Read More
What do you think is the most difficult concept for zoos to understand and implement regarding their relationship to observation?… Read More
It, it depends a bit on the situation, but you, you, if you go into a partnership with, you know, whether it’s with a national park or whether it’s with a, let’s say a wildlife department purely, you know, just a department dealing with, let’s say with primate conservation in… Read More
20 to 30 years?… Read More
What, what does that mean to you long term?… Read More
What’s the long term for you?… Read More
There’s been a, you know, not so much today, I think mo I think many zoos have become very aware that short term projects going into somewhere for a year or even three years, very rarely works. You, you’ve got, if you’re gonna partner with someone like a national park… Read More
Yeah, no, I think that, I think that’s a great concept and it is beginning to happen. There are, there are a number of zoos now both here and in Europe that are partnering in some way or another with, with a national park. And I, I’m presuming here we’re… Read More
Is it still viable?… Read More
Why have zoos not picked up the challenge in more numbers?… Read More
Absolutely, yeah. And I think with some species, groups of species, birds and herps particularly, a lot of private breeders have done a much better job than, than some of the zoo well have both in, in the ways they keep them and in the conservation value, the breeding value… Read More
Do you think, how do you think private breeders, can they be partners with zoos?… Read More
And so one had different, different leadership, some of whom wanted to get too involved. So trying to get that balance where you have to sort of, you have to have a good relationship with that form of governance, but you don’t want, particularly if they’re not knowledgeable on the… Read More
No apol interference in a sort of broad sense too. I, and I think it depends what your mechanism of governance is and also you know, how financially strong you are and it, it comes back again I think to the quality of governance. I had big issues in London… Read More
And, and you’ve had some experience, do you think a zoo can build any kind of insulation against interference from politics?… Read More
Well, as I I mentioned just now, I think, I think certainly being more aware of the outside world and the other institutions that they could partner with, that that’s certainly one thing that they should be doing. Clearly they’ve got to try and address their, their audience, which means… Read More