And it’s working now, they’re using guard dogs and it’s been very successful. Cathryn Hilker is another example of that. I can name you many, many people who are outstanding, who when they were younger or private or even at a zoo, they were able to lecture and work personally… Read More
All right?… Read More
But the infrastructure, the restaurants, the motels, those can be… Oh, I’m sorry. The main structure should be under the non-profit, the animals, the land, that sort of thing, and the education. (clears throat) But the way a lot of the money is made and you get the backing is… Read More
What’s your opinion about recommendations for dealing with bad roadside zoos?… Read More
Well, there has to be, because we’ve got to make sure that we maintain the dedication and the evolution of how we handle animals and how we actually reached the public. We need to work on that. And I think it’s very important to have, I see the vitality of… Read More
I happen to know him very well. But they are not as free to get new ideas and new concepts and go into the future. The 21st century. They’re not as free to do that as ZAA is. And I know that from experience. Read More
Is there a place today for for-profit private for-profit zoos?… Read More
Well, I think listen is it depends upon their messages and their missions. You have to make money if you’re a zoological park, you’ve gotta figure out some way to sustain yourself economically. And I frankly am in favor of non-profits. I believe in that strongly, but the real combination… Read More
The people that belong to the AZA often are restricted in what they can talk about. They’re governed often by the city or by certain foundations and they have to sort of follow the rules sometimes. And some of those rules dictate that you gotta be careful and know what… Read More
And I feel frankly, a little more clear being with ZAA than I did being with AZA. Interesting enough I’m one of the few public people who has promoted geologic parks, zoos all over the country. Read More
And I speak at a lot of the zoos at their big gatherings and things like that, but I’ve never had the heads of the AZA ever give me a telephone call and say, “Hey, Jim, we really appreciate “that you’re out there promoting zoos in America.” Speaking of those… Read More
You mentioned his name a couple of times from the Bronx Zoo. Jim Doherty. Doherty, yeah. I had a great time with them and… (indistinct) Oh, okay. Sorry. Yeah. Well, let me tell you about that. Read More
The zoological world is a big world and there should be room for several groups as long as they’re distinguished clearly you know the difference in them. Well, we know the difference in the AZA and the ZAA. ZAA is a smaller group, and many of them are private individuals… Read More
And guess what it’s called?… Read More
It’s called Spokespeople for Wildlife through Education. And the letters are SPEAK, S-P-E-A-K. I’ve come down, evolve to the point where I feel that communication probably is a challenge of this century. So all those people, they’re like a thousand people in America from nature science centers, from zoological parks,… Read More
I was surprised the other day at the Bronx Zoo, I went out there to visit Bahamian and what’s his name the assistant to Bahamian?… Read More
He gets around adults as well, right?… Read More
And see, I’ve lectured to every kind of organization you would think of for 40 years. I now have people coming up to me and say, when they were young, I influenced them when I brought some animals that they’d never even heard or saw before into their home or… Read More
Are you still involved with ZAA?… Read More
Oh yeah. And… I’m very involved with ZAA, but the point I’m making. I at one time had an organization called AWE, which was Ambassadors for Wildlife through Education. The trouble is there was an animal rights group in California that had the same initials. And I didn’t quite feel… Read More