Well, rhinos take a lot more than just fencing. You have to put a lot of pretty stout barriers in their way to keep them from getting out. There are ranches I think who still have a white rhino and why, because we we’ve got too many of them for… Read More
Now, it seems that in many respects, you have been kind of a liaison between the ranchers and AZA. An unofficial role if it were, but you seem to have positive relationship with them. What would you recommend to ranchers to maintain their interest in participation in these large scale… Read More
Who should be reaching out to who?… Read More
Well, first of all, I think the zoo’s better start thinking about where they’re gonna put their surplus and reach out to some of the ranchers, but they have to be willing as zoos to share and share alike in what as a result of that effort that the ranchers… Read More
I don’t wanna stop breeding them. Read More
So what could I do?… Read More
So I talked with him and we agreed that he would take whatever the zoos who wanted to get participate in the program. He would take the oryx, put them on the land, propagate them. And that would be forever. I mean, not just for a few years, but forever. Read More
I think it boils down to this business of hunting on ranches. The zoo people who don’t know better seem to think that what they’re being told by the activists is more true than what they can see if they came down here to Texas and took a look. For… Read More
And on that ranch, he came in one day and he talked to me about what can he do for conservation on the ranch?… Read More
And at the time I had surplus scimitar-horned oryx, and I needed to think in terms of what am I gonna do with them?… Read More
Elephants are going down the tube. We can name a number. Rhinos, they can’t seem to stop the poaching of either elephants or rhinos no matter what, when you have poachers using automatic weapons and the rangers in the national parks using World War I rifles, you know, it just… Read More
You can’t turn snow leopards out on ranches, but you certainly can with antelope species, but we have to be willing to share and share alike with the ranchers and they have to be willing to support the program that the zoo put together. Well, it would seem that ranchers… Read More
And it seems like a really interesting idea that you obviously and San Antonio have done, why hasn’t AAZA embraced that theory of using the ranchers more for a variety of hoofstock, which is declining in zoos today?… Read More
Why hasn’t it been and what’s your opinion about why it hasn’t been as embraced as the San Antonio Zoos has done?… Read More
How did their involvement help manage larger populations of hoofstock that might not have been able to do well in this traditional zoo setting?… Read More
If a rancher has the wherewithal and the space, and they’re willing to commit at least a section of land to one species or more, I think it’s one of the greatest opportunities for zoos today to get involved with that rancher, with agreement that the rancher will get something… Read More
Isn’t it true with a lot of other animals that we don’t have enough?… Read More
Was this the type of program that you initiated in 1970 with the blackbuck antelope?… Read More
Blackbuck antelope we did, blackbuck antelope in Texas are called Texotics. There’s so many of them all over Texas that people don’t even look at them like they’re exotic anymore. The same with axis deer and nilgai. I remember one time someone telling me that the King Ranch had 1500… Read More
If they had a national park where they could be put safely, we could do that. And so we gathered the zoo, the staff gathered whatever the ranchers wanna donate in blackbuck specimens. And we brought them to the zoo and we held them at the zoo, built crates for… Read More