Interview 12083 – Caption Index: 104
And I just, I remember going to Lester Fisher and I said, “Is there something I can do?… Read More
And I just, I remember going to Lester Fisher and I said, “Is there something I can do?… Read More
Or how can I make myself better if there’s a next time?” And so forth, ’cause I really wanted the job. And then serendipitously, as I say, everybody gets to the same place, different road, another zoologist left. Now, there was another zoologist position. And so I applied for that… Read More
And which was a wonderful thing. He taught me a ton of things, talk about it, but I was, and, but then you got the drudge work too. So they had a machine that was make signs. They called it engravograph and they, you had to make the signs. So… Read More
Yeah. Well, I enjoyed being a keeper. And as I look back on it, the more you rise in any position, the less you are in touch with what brought you into it. And so if you are the, a lawyer and you like trial law, and now, you’re running… Read More
How do you get it?… Read More
There’s very few zoologists positions in Chicago. So I, and I knew that as a keeper, I had a bit of a leg up. They knew who I was, that was a positive. And one of the positions left, George Irving had retired. And so there was no more general… Read More
What were your responsibilities in that position?… Read More
Well, I had, I wanted to be a zoologist. I mean, I had my degrees and that’s what I really wanted to be. Read More
Are you moving more into management now?… Read More
I got a copy, but it’s been lost to the ages. And Joe looked, he said, “You’re doing it wrong.” “Well, how should I do it?” He said, “Get me a coal shovel.” And he bring him a coal shovel. We tipped the crate up, put the coal shovel under… Read More
I was brilliant. But I had learned from people way before me, the practical aspect of certain parts of the job and it had stayed with me. And so I looked like a really smart guy, but I was just remembering what the senior keepers had taught me. Read More
And others learned for you?… Read More
They did. Yeah. So we get from late 60s into about the mid 70s where you transitioned from keeper to zoologist. Read More
Do they actually teach you tricks of the trade?… Read More
Are they, you kind have to learn it yourself?… Read More
I mean, what was it?… Read More
I think your position, you have to learn it yourself for the most part. Or you have people who will mentor you and will teach you things. And sometimes they’re big things, and sometimes they’re little things. For example, we had a large crate we had to move. I mean,… Read More
It’s like your initiation as a young guy, especially as a college guy. No, no. I think it was in a way an initiation. Read More
So I see this as perhaps a transition period where you do have this group of older keepers and then younger keepers, I guess, like you said, you’ve touched on some of this, but how did they work together?… Read More
What were some of the problems?… Read More