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Interview 12083 – Caption Index: 40

And I’m wondering what was like the, what were the cages, the conditions the animals lived in? What was it like?… Read More

Interview 12083 – Caption Index: 41

Well, it was, as I say, very traditional, the monkey house had bars for all the primates, for the gorillas, bigger bars and some of the other animals, the birdhouse was a lot of cages. For example, the monkey house had 31 exhibits inside. The bear line had a very… Read More

Interview 12083 – Caption Index: 35

So a little while ago, you mentioned about you’re starting as a summer laborer at Children’s Zoo. Read More

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What was the zoo like at that time?… Read More

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Well, the zoo was a very traditional zoo, Lincoln Park. It was, had a reptile house. It had a monkey house. It had, which was all the primates, the gorillas, the great apes, everything. It had a bird house. It had a Children’s Zoo. It had a place where the… Read More

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Like, “You don’t wanna be a teacher?… Read More

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You don’t want to go into research?” I said, “No, I wanna work in the zoo.” And they had no experience and they couldn’t tell me. Read More

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I said, “What do I have to do?… Read More

Interview 12083 – Caption Index: 34

What classes should I take in?” They had no idea. They had no idea because they were strictly academics. And later on in years when I started work at the zoo and I kept in touch with my professors, when they would have students, undergrad students who said, “I wanna… Read More

Interview 12083 – Caption Index: 28

Well, I knew, I think intuitively that I had to have of education as well as experience here. I was working in the Children’s Zoo in the summer, but I was, I had gone to Southern Illinois University and I gotten my bachelor’s degree, and then I pursued a master’s… Read More

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Do you think the university understood about somebody wanting to work in a zoo?… Read More

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No. It was interesting because when I was at Southern Illinois University and I would tell my professors that I wanted to work in a zoo, they were aghast. Read More

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So what animals were you drawn to?… Read More

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Well, I always liked the mammals and I subsequently, although I was always interested in snakes. My first book that I ever got was a 1954 reptile book. I think it was a Zim book from my aunt, my Aunt Jeanette who got me this, I still have it today,… Read More

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So what type of schooling did you have?… Read More

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Magic is a hobby. Interestingly enough, I always try to sell magic as part because when you do magic, people, you have their attention. And that’s the idea sometimes. You have their attention, you can deliver a story whatever it is. So we worked up when I was at the… Read More

Interview 12083 – Caption Index: 22

Unfortunately, it never, I couldn’t get it to the right people. Some of the people that thought it was a good idea in education and subsequently left. So it just didn’t have the legs, but still a good idea. But it just, unfortunately, I wasn’t able to use the hobby… Read More

Interview 12083 – Caption Index: 23

So going back to early age, you talked about you had a first meeting with Marlin Perkins. When I was a kid, I would watch a show called “Zoo Parade” and “Zoo Parade” was filmed live at Lincoln Park Zoo with Marlin Perkins, then the director of Lincoln Park Zoo,… Read More

Interview 12083 – Caption Index: 24

He said, “If you wanna have fun and enjoy your life, work in a zoo with the animals.” Wise man. He says, “If you wanna wanna make money, don’t work in a zoo.” (interviewer and Mark laughing) Now, Marlin had, I think he’s caking either two, because he was doing… Read More

Interview 12083 – Caption Index: 17

You see so and so, it’s taken care of.” So I go down there and there’s all the hubbub of kids, and people getting ready for the summer. And I said, “My name is Mark.” I don’t even get my name out. Read More

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