Well, I think I tried to build a little pride in those guys, those kids. Then finally we were able to go into parades, the California parades with our horses and things like that. That built a lot of camaraderie and build a lot of professionalism with these children, with… Read More
What was one of the most unusual things that happened with your kids and you during that tenure when you were running the animal care and farms program?… Read More
Well, I’d take the kids to ranches and things like that. We’d castrate horses and cows and all that stuff. Then I’d take them to Oakland Zoo and meet the two directors there and things like that in Oakland. So if there was no animals, then I made sure there… Read More
And based on that again, were there any life lessons that stood you in good stead for your future endeavors in the animal world, aside from keeping people in line?… Read More
Yeah, Camp Parks. Read More
This was in California?… Read More
If they did something wrong, I’d ride after them with my horse, I’d ride right into the barracks to get them on this horse like a Spaniard going into to South Florida. So I kept things going pretty well in order doing those things. Read More
Then they raised those babies up, then we slaughtered them, and I showed them how to slaughter and dressed them. And we sold it to the cadre, the teachers at the Job Corps, we sold that stuff, eggs. Then I got Ward Bond’s brother, I was horsey then, I loved… Read More
Because I had some agricultural experience, of course, living in farming and animals and things. So they put me in. I got this job and I developed the Job Corps Agricultural School. I’m not a qualified teacher, but I had all these kids and I found out these kids, they… Read More
How did you get involved with that job?… Read More
They didn’t know how to hold a fork, and they scalped those dinner tickets and things. So those kids were pretty smart. Read More
I think my next job was… Because 1965, you are working with Litton Industries. That was Job Corps, that war on poverty during the Johnson administration. Well, I developed a, this thing was a war on poverty and it was somewhat good and somewhat absolutely a waste. But they’d put… Read More
What’s your next job?… Read More
Yes. Read More
– So now you leave the university?… Read More
Oh, yeah, I felt that. I had animals around me all the time, one way or the other. I had dogs that would do anything for me. Read More
Were you still thinking about to work with animals?… Read More
Huh?… Read More
Did you still think about wanting to work with animals?… Read More
Working at the University of Tennessee in the department of entomology. I made 47 cents an hour, that was my big job. I dealt with these chemicals and killing insects and things. Read More