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Interview 14294 – Caption Index: 274

You obviously accepted it. When I found out when the (indistinct) director told me about my new role, the first thing I did was I immediately called all members of my family to tell them what happened, and all my friends so that they wouldn’t be surprised if they read… Read More

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I was been paid in my new position by the county. It was the county. And I didn’t lose any pay. It was just a lateral transfer, I guess you’d say. But yeah, it was a different assignment. If I can ask the question, how did you handle this abrupt… Read More

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I guess, an (indistinct) employee and were- Well, after they brought in their new political appointee as a director, I was assigned to be the educational curator and worked with the zoological society and educational programs. But also I filled in for our veterinarian, which we went through several of… Read More

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In your new role were you being as education person were you paid by the zoo society or were we being paid again by the city?… Read More

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And it just worked beautifully for us because we could get on top of the rock work, or just climb up one of the trees out on the exhibit. And no problem. You could actually jump on the animal if you had enough courage, I guess. But it was easier… Read More

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So it was a beautiful natural moat system. And there was no need for concrete retaining walls or anything like that. And then the night house areas or the holding pen areas, we disguised behind artificial rock work. We made out a gunite wire, reinforcing gunite, and it worked beautifully. Read More

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Oh boy, we see as far as how long it takes to build the zoo. We started building that zoo in the late 1970s. We opened it in 1980 fall of 1980. I would guess we had been working there at least three years, maybe four years. And what we… Read More

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And then the African area after that. But it took quite a while. But it wouldn’t have taken… It didn’t take us as long as it would’ve up in the cold climate, like up in Chicago. Because all we did was we dug the moats right out of the limestone… Read More

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Now your association with the Metro Zoo, how long approximately does it take to build a brand new zoo?… Read More

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No. Read More

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And I said, you’ve had a lot of personnel go through here. And I said the people that work with animals are different than concession people. You just can’t treat them the same way. They have kind of an empathy towards animals and they get involved with the animals and… Read More

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So they didn’t ask you to come back?… Read More

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Looking at their exhibits, and their holding area. They had a beautiful holding area. It was north of Gainesville. It was quite away actually from Disney, about three hour drive. And we had a good working relationship. But one day now the guy I would work with, he retired actually… Read More

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With Disney?… Read More

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Well, I got involved with Disney because our designer then after a few years quit and went to work for Disney as a designer. And they were going to develop this new African or this new wildlife area, animal kingdom area. And (indistinct) was working there, but they just wanted… Read More

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Let’s see. Yeah, I was director of zoo at the time. Did you have to get permission from your bosses to do this or- Whenever we did anything outside like that, we always had to get permission from our bosses to do it. And they said yes. And how did… Read More

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A guy had a garden over there. It was not very big couple acres, and he had some birds in it. And so he hired us to design it and put some like a hummingbird exhibit and a few other things in it. And we got involved in that. But… Read More

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And you were director at the time?… Read More

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And so we put one in the middle of this zoo and made an area where people could sit down, and visit and talk. And then we designed a zoogeographic zoo and I thought it’ll be a beautiful plans. But I guess it never got built. We got paid. So… Read More

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And he said, “They don’t make any sense to me either.” So I went back to the guy and I said, look, we’ve looked over these things. They don’t make any sense. I don’t want to get into trying to improve this, ’cause I think it’d be too much work,… Read More

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