Our intent was not to achieve any approval, we just wanted to help. And we had this specialized knowledge that the PanAm could utilize, from that office here and accomplish the purpose. You’ve done some unique things in your career, in the zoo. Read More
When did you retire from the zoo?… Read More
And make it practical, make it so these guys in Kolkata and Manila, in Jakarta can find the materials to do it, but will you do that?” And I said, “Of course.” So we went out, we gave it our top priority. We have a very sharp guy named Tony… Read More
All of the shippers offices had one so that they had plenty of extras, so that these improvised new animal shippers now had a standard to achieve on their crates. And the crates went through, and the vaccine was approved in ’55, and enough animals went through, that in two… Read More
The odor was terrible, both from the fecal material, as well as from the dead monkeys, because airplanes were slow in ’55. So he said, “Paul, we need you.” On one end, we’re under the gun to get monkeys to the research people for the polio labs. On the other… Read More
Could you design us a prototype monkey crate that we can establish as the criteria that the shipper must meet before we’ll accept the animals?… Read More
So what happened is here’s this huge demand. So it’s economically feasible for folks, people in Indonesia and the Philippines, and India to get monkeys and get a good price for them from the researchers in the USA. With that stage set, one day I got a call from the… Read More
He was the top guy on the cargo. You’d tell me what’s coming through, the cable just came through that the Kiwis or whatever are on their way. And so I got out there and he said, “Here’s what we need your help on.” And he pointed at an airplane… Read More
And finally, when the Salk vaccine was about to be approved, the labs needing monkeys increased because there was competition, not just the Salk vaccine, actually, the March of Dimes set up their own monkey holding facility to supply other researchers, because developing this use of the monkeys was a… Read More
Well, the way the zoo got involved in monkey, in importing and large numbers was not the zoo per se, but the fact that so many monkeys were brought in for medical research, particularly for polio vaccines production. So in the mid ’50s, there was a big upsurge of interest… Read More
That money was available, and that was the money that, research money that Salk and others used to develop the vaccine. Now to develop the vaccine, they entirely relied on monkeys as the lab animal. Not just to develop the vaccine, and not just to test for it, but to… Read More
And can you tell me the story of that?… Read More
And can you tell me how it came about in your opinion, the efficacy of that type of use?… Read More
Actually, he was pleased about what we did and what he did get back. He sent some to Peter Scott in Britain and he raised a bunch and some came back from Britain, also to be released. The obituary when he died in the ’70s, 30 years later, I guess… Read More
Now I understand that you or was it the Honolulu Zoo, brought in primates for medical research?… Read More
Did he get his birds back?… Read More
He didn’t, did Herbert get his birds back?… Read More
What was the primary?… Read More
And now they’re over 1,000 birds that have been, that live on in the wild on three islands, the big island, you can see nene, you can drive right half hour from our house and see nene. They’re very trusting birds, and then they’re particularly abundant on Kauai, Kauai and… Read More
And it did, it worked. And you haven’t answered the primary question though. Read More