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If I’m building it in the 2000s, would I’ve done the same thing or multiple yards, things change. Well, the problem is having multiple Silverbacks in the same exhibit, in the presence of females. And we always had that. Add to that, SSP in terms of an animal, that came… Read More

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Sunshine was a gorilla, first gorilla that was born at San Francisco. He was named Sunshine because he was born during the day, out in the middle of a sunny day at San Francisco. And he was actually, his mother died shortly after he was born. And he lived with… Read More

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How successful was it and who is Sunshine?… Read More

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How’d that come about?… Read More

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This is real case, this not me just picking something out and we’re designing exhibits for Kamodo dragons, no one at zoo had any experience with, and trying to come up with budgets and this and what we’re gonna do, you know?… Read More

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And then all of a sudden, three months later, they’re moving on, and back to something on the master plan. I personally am not a master plan advocate. In 1983, you said Sunshine, which was a prime breeding potential to Ohio. Read More

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You know, it’s one of those. Okay, and though it’s not in the master plan, suddenly for X amount of months, you’re putting in an unbelievable amount of effort in terms of trying to figure out how are you gonna display Kamodo dragons. Read More

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And, and San Francisco is very good, was very good at master plans. Numerous master plans were made. My criticism of master plans are, we never followed them. I mean, they were almost well, they were meaningless, I guess there was some meaning to them, economically, if the city was… Read More

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What should should we be accomplishing?… Read More

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What didn’t we accomplish?… Read More

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I mean, every five years, you have to set up some sort of time period and say, when was last time we looked at this master plan, what have we accomplished?… Read More

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The zoo had many master plans. It’s funny, as I said earlier, you know, at Evansville, I never heard of the term master plan, while in San Francisco, I mean, there certainly were master plans. And I think part of, I’m not sure. I know when the zoo’s first official… Read More

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Did the zoo have a master plan?… Read More

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Was this part of a master plan?… Read More

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I mean, and that structure and it’s more than 10 years, it probably lasted less than 18 years, maybe 15 years. I mean, we wound up having to take it down because of the metal structure. I mean, we wound up having fabric that was coded with vinyl, but moisture… Read More

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It was a cleaning nightmare because you had all these eye beams that were going up 56 feet high. You couldn’t clean it. So then USDA inspections would start getting on. And then we wound up designing, putting in these fittings in place that were at a 45 degree angle… Read More

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And they’re worried about a catwalk, I thought. But bottom line is, it was decided that since the society was paying for it, they were the owners of the exhibit because the city didn’t become owner until it was built and given a gift in place. So the society didn’t… Read More

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So we wanted a cat walk on top. So we’re on top of the animals. It gives us, you know, a little more animal, so to speak where we can work with the animals a little better. While they’re wound up being this gigantic fight with the designers. And and… Read More

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Why we saying, well, if we have a Colobus that’s 56 feet high and we’re 56 feet low and we gotta do something. How are we going to do it?… Read More

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We wanted them to put a catwalk on the top of the exhibit, 56 feet high, right. In the length of the exhibit. Read More

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