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Interview 20028 – Caption Index: 24

And he told me basically I was trespassing and turn myself around and go, and for some unknown reason, we just, he started telling me about the zoo, his dream for the zoo. Well, as the conversation went on, you know, I told him that I was majoring in zoology… Read More

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He didn’t think zoos needed full-time veterinarians, but he needed a veterinary technician, and would I be interested in the job?… Read More

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I said, “Sure,” but I could’ve cared less, you know. So I left. Forgot all about it. So about four or five months later, I go to the campus mailbox and open it up, and there was this green envelope, and in the up, addressed to me, and in the… Read More

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And honestly, I had to think a minute about why was I getting this letter?… Read More

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But anyway I woke up the next morning in my parents’ home, and the newspaper was there. And I picked up the paper, and on like the third or fourth page of the paper was a little article about two inches long about how the zoo in Columbia was coming… Read More

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there’s a railroad track and a pine and- A railroad track, a transmission, a set of high power transmission lines, and a pine forest. That’s the zoo. That’s what I see. So I drove over the railroad track over a dirt road and under the power lines, cars going back… Read More

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Columbia got the second century, and then Greenville got the third century. Columbia could not decide what to do, what to build. And they had a number of projects they explored. None of them seemed to resonate. And these men, these gentlemen tried to take advantage of that and say,… Read More

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And in 1969, when I would have been a freshman in college, the state of South Carolina created something called the Rich-Lex Riverbanks Parks Special Purpose District. The Rich-Lex are abbreviations for Richland County and Lexington County. Now the two counties are divided by a river, and those two counties,… Read More

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90-plus percent of them serve two purposes, either fire protection in rural areas or water and sewer districts in rural areas, with a smattering of other kind of unique things like airports, a couple of hospitals. So the legislature, the delegation from Richland and Lexington County took advantage of that… Read More

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That was about it. And a group of gentlemen, I think there were no more than five or six, sometime around 1963 or ‘4, I would have been in the seventh and eighth grade, had a dream of building a children’s zoo in Columbia. And their… The way they saw… Read More

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They did ultimately get a lease, but initially they got ownership of 17 acres of land from the local utility company. Very poor land, by the way. And they raised about 40 or 50,000 dollars. But they eventually, after a couple of years, just said, “This isn’t gonna work,” and… Read More

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And my love of birdwatching started with him in kind of a funny way but. No, he had a- And then I took another course from him in ethology or animal behavior and just loved both of those courses immensely. Read More

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When you were growing up or when you were in college, what zoos did you see growing up, and did they have an impression on you?… Read More

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I never visited a zoo until I walked through the gates of Riverbanks Zoo, which was under construction on January 3rd, 1973. I’d never been to a zoo. Never dreamed of working in a zoo. It was not on my radar. I actually was very interested in going to graduate… Read More

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And in the entire time, the four years that I’ve spent at Clemson, they never accepted more than eight, and almost every one of them had a 4.0 GPA. And I didn’t. I had a lot of fun in college. (laughs) And so my junior year I switched majors from… Read More

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During this time when you were in college, did any teacher have an effect on your life?… Read More

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Absolutely. First semester of my junior year when I switched, I took, I signed up for a course in ornithology and taught by a professor who had only been at Clemson for a year, and he was probably no more than four years older than me. His name was and… Read More

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Yes. Primarily having to do with dogs, but we lived in a kind of a newish, lower middle class neighborhood. When we moved into our home when I was five years old, the streets were not paved where I lived, and we lived, oh, probably about 100 yards from a… Read More

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My mother, on the other hand, was a voracious reader, and I guess I developed a love of reading from her, and I love to read natural history books. As far back as I can remember, I was, you know, I could tell you how fast a cheetah could run… Read More

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I wanted to be a veterinarian, but that just wasn’t to be, having a lot to do with the fact that there is no veterinary school in South Carolina. But I was the first person in my, on my mother’s side to attend college and graduate. And I think I… Read More

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