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Interview 20952 – Caption Index: 212

What circumstances led you to make the decision of leaving the zoo, zoo you built into a world-class facility, were you under impression?… Read More

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And so it became Wildlife Reserves. So that was the holding company for the three parks, the Night Safari Zoo and the Bird Park. And then slowly, my demise came in because whereas before that, we were running as two separate companies, the Zoo Night Safari and the Bird Park. Read More

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I was president of SEAZA, the Southeast Asian Zoo Association. If I go on to go to a council meeting or to go to a conference in the zoo, it’s just written off. But in the bird parks style, you have to quantify it in terms of dollars and cents. Read More

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I mean, and I would tell the chairman, I said, “We don’t do that.” And he said, “Why not?” He said, “That’s what government does.” He said, “Yeah, but we’re not government. We don’t have to follow government procedure.” If I send somebody on a trip. I pretty well trust… Read More

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So he was chairman of Bird Park, chairman of the zoo. And so about three years later, and we got all fine, there was no problem. He kind of said, in fact, the first thing he said to me is like, “Bern, just do what you’ve done. You’re doing a… Read More

Interview 20952 – Caption Index: 207

It’s just stupid. Two small companies in the same business. I mean, come, let’s just get on with it.” So we merged. Dr. Kwa obviously was the chairman of Wildlife Reserve Singapore, I became the CEO. And so we went on for a couple of years. We actually struggled with… Read More

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They’re totally different.” The corporate culture in the zoo is one of Dr. Ong’s personality, is a very open non-civil service, almost cavalier sort of a management style with very few concerns about the rules and regulations of government and with the Jurong Bird Park, because it’s been run by… Read More

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And there will definitely be a clash, but the worst thing is to be a clash between the two chairman ’cause one’s gotta go, right?… Read More

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If you merge the two companies, one’s gotta go. You can’t have two chairman. So the chairman, Dhanabalan, had a… Chairman of Temasek Dhanabalan who had asked for the merger, said, “Okay, I understand. I mean, let’s not rock the boat. It’s not a big issue.” So everything went well. Read More

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How does that come to place?… Read More

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Why?… Read More

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So what happened was we had a new chairman of Temasek Holdings, a gentleman called Mr. Dhanabalan, who formerly was the Deputy Prime Minister. So quite a hot shot. And when he came into Temasek, quite some time before the merger, I mean many, many years before that, he looked… Read More

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Was your creativity and fame an issue with others, top civil servant?… Read More

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People within the city government, were they jealous of the fame?… Read More

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I’m not sure, actually. I don’t think so, It’s difficult to say, but I didn’t encounter any jealousy. I think the zoo is always sort of out on a limb anyway, so that it’s never really mainstream anything. And I think even within zoos, within a zoo, you have so… Read More

Interview 20952 – Caption Index: 194

Is that because does he give you new responsibilities?… Read More

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Yeah, I think so. I was executive director up until that time. Executive director was a position I had. Okay, so I started off as director in 1980. And then Charlie Schroeder comes along. We bring him out as a consultant in about whenever, ’86 or something. And he said,… Read More

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So what’s the difference between Bernard and the director of your board?” And so I said, “Should be called executive director.” So I had this change of title with absolutely no increase of responsibility or increase in salary. And then when we opened the Night Safari, the board said, “Yeah,… Read More

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Yep. It’s successful. You get a title, another title, A title. Chief executive. Oh, right. Read More

Interview 20952 – Caption Index: 193

Is that because of the ninth Safari?… Read More

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